Calls for Manchester venue to be fined for hosting David Icke

Manchester Council have been urged to penalise the O2 Apollo for allowing a ‘modern day hate preacher’ a platform to speak

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Seriously what a load of crock Icke is not anti-Semitic or a hate preacher try attending a complete 12 hours session or listen to all his videos and get the information right before you cry anti-Semitic, the royal family have more to gripe about he speaks of the Royal Family’s having Reptilian heritage.. LOL

Icke considers labels and race are illusionally nonsense as we when it’s all boiled down we are mere dust! What you are printing is fake news! David Icke is against Political system called Zionism and the Secret Societies he speaks out against which have linkage to Zionism.

He just asks the hard questions and explores the possibilities linked to the question. If you don’t like what he putting forward then provide in-depth factual clear articulated rebuttals to any premises he may be putting forward. 

Gagging is what Hitler did remember, so engage in intelligent dialogue

In view of all I’ve said about Icke I would like to Clearly State I don’t agree with his overall perceptions of Israel and Palestine he leaves out a critical factor in his premise as he has dismissed it as non-existent 

“The Biblical Accounts of God and his Dealings with mankind” as Icke would suggest the God of the Bible was an alien etc., so the mix of his world view is diametrically opposite to a person who adheres to the Biblical account of God and Mankind.

Any attempt to boil down the major drivers in David is a monumental task, nor is everything he says far-fetched, many observations he makes are solid and valid particularly secret societies, shadow governments and one world order agenda, which by all appearance has just suffered a serious blow with Clinton’s loss in the 2016 elections. Time will tell which side of the line President Trump actually settles on, I’m hearing signals in his speech which indicates he’s been made aware of things only a handful get to know which applies massive force on his position he’s entered office under. 

It only took a month and the smile was wiped of Obama’s face when he first took office. Probably after the fireside chat from Players we know not what I’d call the shadow people. The test is will he blow their cover and lift the lid on all the secrets which have manipulated all Presidents since the 1940’s

Senior Iran Official: No Change in Stance on Israel, Which ‘Should be Annihilated’

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Hossein Sheikholeslam, a foreign affairs adviser to Iranian parliament speaker Ali Larijani, said Iran still believes Israel should be annihilated. Photo: Screenshot.

A senior Iranian official on Tuesday called for Israel’s annihilation and rejected the claim by British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond that Iran’s government has shown more nuance towards the Jewish state.

“Our positions against the usurper Zionist regime have not changed at all; Israel should be annihilated and this is our ultimate slogan,” Hussein Sheikholeslam, a foreign affairs adviser to Iranian parliament speaker Ali Larijani, told reporters on Tuesday, the Fars News Agency reported.

On Monday, Hammond, who was in Tehran to re-open the British embassy there, suggested that the current Iranian government under President Hassan Rouhani has shown a more nuanced approach towards Israel than the leadership of former president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

“What we’re looking for is behavior from Iran, not only towards Israel but towards other players in the region, that slowly rebuilds their sense that Iran is not a threat to them,” Hammond said.

AUGUST 25, 2015 | JNS.org | Source: algemeiner.com “Senior Iran Official: No Change in Stance on Israel, Which ‘Should be Annihilated’”

Confronting European Antisemitism

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Alan M. Dershowitz is the Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law at Harvard Law School. He is a graduate of Brooklyn College and Yale Law School.

I was there to speak at a conference commemorating the 70th anniversary of the liberation of the Nazi death camps.  Many European speakers talked about the efforts they are making to confront the rising tide of antisemitism throughout Europe.  But before one can decide how to confront a sickness like antisemitism, one must first describe and diagnose the pathology.

There are several distinct, but sometimes overlapping, types of antisemitism. 
*(right-wing, fascist Jew hatred; Muslim antisemitism; hard left anti-Zionism & eliminationist anti-Zionism and antisemitism)

1. The first is traditional, right-wing, fascist Jew hatred that has historically included theological, racial, economic, social, personal and cultural aspects.  We are seeing a resurgence of this today in Greece, Hungary and other European countries with rising right-wing parties that are anti-Muslim as well as anti-Jewish.

2. The second is Muslim antisemitism.  Just as not all Greeks and Hungarians are antisemitic, so too not all Muslims suffer from this malady.  But far too many do.  It is wrong to assume that only Muslims who manifest Jew hatred through violence, harbor antisemitic views.  Recent polls show an extraordinarily high incidence of antisemitism—hatred of Jews as individuals, as a group and as a religion,—throughout North Africa, the Middle East and Muslim areas in Europe.  This hatred manifests itself not only in words, but in deeds, such as taunting Jews who wear yarmulkes, vandalizing Jewish institutions, and occasional violence directed at individual Jews.  Among a small number of extremists it also results in the kind of deadly violence we have seen in Toulouse, Paris, Brussels and other parts of Europe.  Several decades ago it manifested itself in attacks on synagogues by Palestinian terrorists, including some operating on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization.

3. Third, there is hard left anti-Zionism that sometimes melds into subtle and occasionally overt antisemitism.  This pathology is seen in the double standard imposed on everything Jewish, including the nation state of the Jewish people.  It is also reflected in blaming “Jewish power”, and the “pushiness” of Jews in demanding support for Israel.  I’m not referring to criticism of Israeli policies or actions.  I’m referring to the singling out of Israel for extreme demonization.  The ultimate form of this pathology is the absurd comparison made by some extreme leftist between the extermination of policies of the Nazis and of Israel’s efforts to defend itself against terrorist rockets, tunnels, suicide bombers and other threats to its civilians.  Comparing Israel’s actions to those of the Nazis is a not-so-subtle version of Holocaust denial.  Because if all the Nazis really did was what Israel is now doing, there could not have been a Holocaust or an attempt at genocide against the Jewish people.  A variation on this perverse theme is apartheid denial:  by accusing Israel—which accords equal rights to all its citizens—of apartheid, these haters deny the horrors of actual apartheid, which was so much more horrible than anything Israel has ever done.

4. Fourth, and most dangerous, is eliminationist anti-Zionism and antisemitism of the kind advocated by the leaders of Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, and ISIS.  Listen to Hassan Nasrallah:

“If [the Jews] all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide” or “If we search the entire world for a person more cowardly, despicable, weak and feeble in psyche, mind, ideology and religion, we would not find anyone like the Jew.  Notice I didn’t say the Israeli.”

These variations on the theme of antisemitism have several elements in common.  First, they tend to engage in some form of Holocaust denial, minimization, glorification or comparative victimization.  Second, they exaggerate Jewish power, money and influence.  Third, they seek the delegitimation and demonization of Israel as the nation state of the Jewish people.  Fourth, they impose a double standard on all things Jewish.

Finally, they nearly all deny that they are antisemites who hate all Jews.  They claim that their hatred is directed against Israel and Jews who support the nation state of the Jewish people.

This common form of the new antisemitism—we love the Jews, it’s only their nation state that we hate—is pervasive among many European political, media, cultural and academic leaders.  It was evident even among some who came to commemorate the liberation of the death camps.  A recent poll among Germans showed a significant number of the children, grandchildren and great grandchildren of Nazi supporters didn’t want to hear about Nazi atrocities, but believed what Israel was doing to the Palestinians was comparable to what the Nazis had done to the Jews.

This then is the European problem of antisemitism that many European leaders are unwilling to confront because they have a built in excuse!  It’s Israel’s fault—if only Israel would do the right thing with regard to the Palestinians, the problem would be solved.

Tragically, it won’t be solved, because the reality is that hatred of Israel is not the cause of antisemitism.  Rather, it is the reverse:  antisemitism is a primary cause of hatred for the nation state of the Jewish people.

via Confronting European Antisemitism – J-Wire » J-Wire.

Leading Evangelical Organization Calls on Christian Zionists to Repent for Supporting Israel

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One of the world’s leading Christian Evangelical organizations is targeting Christian support for the State of Israel in what it calls a sinful practice, Israel Hayom first reported.

February 1, 2015 | By Lea Speyer

The Lausanne Movement has decried Christian Zionism in the past and its newest anti-Israel campaign is not new.

“For over 60 years, many Evangelicals have clung to a very narrow theological narrative that weds Christian theology with a political ideology known as Zionism,” wrote Steve Haas, vice presidents of World Vision US, in the latest issue of Lausanne Global Analysis.

Haas compared Christian Zionists to Spanish inquisitors, Crusaders, supporters of apartheid South Africa, and other historical atrocities.

As a whole, the Lausanne movement has developed a negative obsession with Israel over the last several years. Senior leaders within Lausanne espouse the idea what Israel, the Jewish state, is the chief persecutor of Christians and other peoples in the Middle East.

One such example is the “Cape Town Commitment,” published by Lausanne in a gathering in South African in 2010. The document calls on Christians to repent for their direct role in “Palestinian suffering” by supporting Israel.

The movement equated “Palestinian suffering” at the hands of Israel with the suffering of the Jews during the Holocaust.

Lausanne repeatedly makes little mention of Christian suffering under radical Islamists, while Israel and international Zionists are slammed for what the movement believes is a tyrannical rule in the Middle East.

Lausanne is not the only Christian organization that preaches against Israel. Recently, the Presbyterian Church USA (PCUSA) voted on a measure that called for removing the word “Israel” from its prayers.

While the resolution was ultimately rejected, the sentiment behind the removal of any mention of “Israel” was not missed. An active supporter of the boycott, divestment and sanctions campaign (BDS), PCUSA has passed several anti-Israel measures and encourages its followers to stem all support to the State of Israel.

Original Source: Leading Evangelical Organization Calls on Christian Zionists to Repent for Supporting Israel – Israel News.

A special kind of hate

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Muslims anti-Semitism

Jews in Europe report a surge in anti-Semitism: see: nytimes.com

74% of French Jews are considering emigration: see: tabletmag.com

Jews flee anti-Semitism upsurge in Europe: see: theaustralian.com.au

French Muslims see Jews controlling the economy: see: jta.org

Islamic anti-Semitism: see: wikiislam.net

The global pogrom: see: jpost.com

Jews leave Swedish city after sharp rise in anti-Semitic hate crimes: see: telegraph.co.uk

Reporter wearing kippah abused by Muslims in Malmö, Sweden: see: elderofziyon.blogspot.co.uk

Jews attacked in Malmö days after synagogue vandalised: see: jta.org

Jewish woman beaten by Muslims in Sweden for wearing Star of David: see: inquisitr.com

The mayor of Malmö blames Jews for anti-Semitism: see: tabletmag.com

Anti-Semitism in Copenhagen: see: frontpagemag.com

Switzerland: Muslim protesters attempt to storm synagogue: see: israelnationalnews.com

Belgian cafe posts a sign banning Jews from entering: see: nydailynews.com

Anti-Israel protesters defend Hitler. Police eject pro-Israel man: see: breitbart.com

Anti-Semitism in Britain. “Sit up and take notice.”: see: gatestoneinstitute.org

UK Islam apologist admits to Muslim  anti-Semitism, “our dirty little secret”: see: newstatesman.com

The Luton Islamic Centre is a hotbed of anti-Semitic hatred: see: hurryupharry.org

Jewish MP cancels surgeries after threat: see: guardian-series.co.uk

UK Muslim gang goes “Jew bashing”: see: mirror.co.uk

Another gutless UK politician condemns the current wave of anti-Semitism without once alluding to its source. : see: telegraph.co.uk

New York City councilman David Greenfield calls out the Jew haters for what they are: see: youtube.com

Arab TV teaching children to hate Jews: see: youtube.com

Daniel Greenfield: We need to talk about Muslim anti-Semitism: see: frontpagemag.com

Contemporary imprints of the anti-Semitic libel, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion: see: en.wikipedia.org

Creeping Anti-Israelism in the Evangelical Movement

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The tentacles of anti-Jewish fervor are seemingly everywhere. Not even the American Church is immune from the sickness of anti-Semitism, and tracing the networks can be a fascinating exercise. They are so diverse, and so unequally yoked in various ways. But they are all linked by a dislike of Jews and Israel.

by Jim Fletcher
I live in a small town in the American South. A few years ago, I stopped at a convenience store and noticed on the counter a tabloid newspaper. I picked up a copy and when I got home, realized it was a white-supremacist rag, liberally sprinkled with anti-Jewish propaganda. In fact, it felt a lot like classic, medieval anti-Semitism, which never really went out of style.

So it is that I spend much of my time now researching the decline of Israel support, specifically within American Evangelicalism, once a stronghold of support for the Jewish state.

From visits to captured Palestinian weaponry and propaganda literature displayed in Israel, to sitting in on evangelical leadership conferences that feature anti-Israel speakers, watching the erosion of support for Israel is jarring.

A friend sent me a link recently to a blog, “Mondoweiss,” which claims to be

a news website devoted to covering American foreign policy in the Middle East, chiefly from a progressive Jewish perspective.

This particular link featured an essay by Marc Ellis, the retired professor (Baylor University) who now is able to devote more time to his anti-Israel obsession, including routine comparisons between Israel and the Third Reich.

Leading was an endorsement from none other than Dr. Cornel West:

Anytime I think of my brother Marc Ellis, I think of quiet dignity, spiritual integrity, moral consistency, fierce fortitude, and an unstoppable determination to tell the truth, expose lies, and bear witness.

The title of this particular piece, “Burning Children:

A Jewish View of the War in Gaza,” tells you all you need to know about Ellis’s view of Israelis. What I find especially notable is the similar tone to that of pieces penned by “evangelical” leaders like Donald Miller and Lynne Hybels.

Therein lies a most interesting link.

Miller, an author of some fame (“Blue Like Jazz”), and Hybels, co-founder of the powerful Willow Creek Association, have both spoken at Catalyst conferences. Catalyst staff and organizers work hard to present the organization as the evangelical leadership conduit. The powerful networking features three large conferences each year (in southern California, Dallas, and Atlanta, thus blanketing the country), where an eclectic bunch of center-left speakers engage 50,000 senior pastors and other church staff. The Catalyst database features many thousands more pastors who receive resources.

At Catalyst Atlanta, in 2012, Hybels spoke, and the title of her talk, “We Belong to Each Other: Americans, Israelis and Palestinians for Peace,” implied a non-violent form of protest of the “occupation,” yet she decried the presence of the IDF in the territories, spoke of the negative impact of the security fence, and alleged that Palestinians lack water sources. Her slide titled “1967 Six-Day War” stated: “Israeli Military Occupation of the West Bank and Gaza begins.”

All standard PLO fare.

Hybels isn’t the only Palestinian advocate to address church audiences. At the 2011 meeting of the Evangelicals for Middle East Understanding (EMEU) in California, Anglican vicar Stephen Sizer spoke; Sizer is perhaps the biggest critic of Israel and its friends — notably, Christian Zionists — in the world.

The entire conference was devoid of any context: no mention of the Arab invasion of Israel in 1948, or the context of the Six-Day War or ’73 War. Additionally, several anti-Semitic undertones were evident. Near the conclusion of the conference, Don Wagner (formerly a professor at Chicago’s Northpark Seminary) told what some described as a joke:

Several of the Christian Zionist Republican candidates were told by the media just before a debate that Gaddafi had been shot through the temple.” “Oh, my God,” said one, “I didn’t know he was Jewish!

Such talk is becoming standard at Christian conferences around the country.

In 2011, Catalyst invited Cornel West, the radical Princeton professor, to address its Atlanta gathering, via video link.

How odd, I thought. Why would ostensibly evangelical leaders invite a man who describes himself as a “non-Marxist socialist”?

(You know what that means, don’t you? He’s a Marxist.)

So I asked Catalyst director Brad Lomenick. Four times.

No answer.

Finally, I asked him in person at Catalyst Dallas in May 2014. He passed me along to the new director, Tyler Reagin, who, as it turns out, also didn’t have the time to answer my question.

Catalyst doesn’t want rank-and-file evangelicals figuring out what some of us who have attended conferences already know: they are left-wing.

Consider the intro to West’s bio from 2011, posted on the Catalyst site:

“Cornel West is a prominent and provocative democratic intellectual.”

In David Horowitz’s book, “Radicals,” he discusses the vapid nature of West’s resume. Would that the evangelical Christian leaders mainstreaming West knew this.

Instructive for these evangelical leaders is Horowitz’s observation of West cloaking himself in religious language:

A tireless self-promoter, West habitually refers to himself and his work as “prophetic” (e.g., “I am a prophetic Christian freedom fighter”), and has put the words “prophetic” or “prophesy” in the titles of four of his books, including a collection of casual pieces and book reviews he called Prophetic Fragments, as though Ezekiel was his soul mate and the parchments containing his wisdom had been eaten by the sands of time.

This is an important point because Cornel West is at best a radical socialist, yet Christian leaders are embracing him. It has been announced that West will speak at the “Justice Conference” in Chicago in June, along with mainstream evangelicals Lynne Hybels, Bob Goff, and Louie Giglio. This is shocking, given the alleged ideological divide between evangelicals and leftists.

LYNNE HYBELS Co-Founder of Willow Creek  & Advocate for Global Engagement @lynnehybels

BOB GOFF Best-Selling Author & Speaker @bobgoff

LOUIE GIGLIO Pastor of Passion City Church. Founder of the Passion Movement @louiegiglio

DR. CORNEL WEST Scholar, Activist, Servant & Lover of Music @cornelwest

It is the empty nature of West’s accolades that rankles true evangelicals, who recognize the left’s infiltration of the community.

As Horowitz notes:

Who is this man who has been elevated to such prominence by cultural arbiters high and low? His newly published autobiography, Brother West: Living and Loving Out Loud (and don’t even attempt to parse that title), answers the question with an epigraph, which is a citation from himself:


“I’m a bluesman in the life of the mind, and a
jazzman in the world of ideas.”—Cornel West


Like many sentences West writes, this catchy phrase is a substitute for thought that does not make any sense. “But what does it mean to be a bluesman in the life of the mind?”

Good question, but it doesn’t matter to Christian leaders determined to expose young leaders and laypersons to leftist ideology. Further, West’s anti-Semitic ties are deeply disturbing.

Radicals” clues us in on West’s view of Jews:

He was a celebrity sponsor of the 2012 “Global March to Jerusalem,” an attack organized by Islamist Iran on the Jewish state. He has been a frequent speaker at the black liberation church of another sponsor of  the Global March, Jeremiah Wright, the notorious anti-Semite and race-hater whom West regards as “my dear brother” and “a prophetic Christian preacher.”

What conservatives need to understand is that these demonstrations of hate mongering are no longer confined to the academic community. They are now being mainstreamed even to the Bible Belt. Consider that Donald Miller has written about Israel, even accusing the IDF of war crimes (murdering Palestinian women and children), and Hybels traverses the country speaking up for the Palestinian narrative.

Truly, the research presented in Paul Kengor’s important book, “Dupes,” rings true. For 80 years, totalitarians (mostly the Soviets) worked long and hard to undermine American from within. While we were watching our shores, we didn’t realize that the corrosive effects of Marxism were permeating our universities and even seminaries. They have now reached full flower, which bodes ill for freedom-loving Americans and their close friend and ally, Israel.

The biggest under-reported story in America today is the co-opting of the evangelical Christian community by the Palestinian propagandists. It will get worse.

In this brave new world, we find ourselves oppressed by the views of West targeting the West.

January 15, 2015 by Jim Fletcher via: frontpagemag.com "Creeping Anti-Israelism in the Evangelical Movement"

Presbyterian Church Voted on Erasing “Israel” from Prayers – Israel News

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pressbuttons-SplittingHairs-israelAs if actively supporting a boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) campaign against Israel wasn’t enough, turns out the Presbyterian Church USA (PCUSA) considered banning the word “Israel” from its prayers.

In a report on the Algemeiner, a resolution was presented but ultimately rejected by the 221st General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church USA to “distinguish between the biblical terms that refer to the ancient land of Israel and the modern political State of Israel.”

To carry out such a plan, the resolution called for the development of “educational materials, with the help of our Presbyterian seminaries, for clergy, church musicians, worship leaders, and Christian educators regarding ‘ancient Israel/modern Israel’ distinction.”

The impetus behind the proposal to completely erase Israel from prayers was caused by “a section of hymns under the unfortunate heading: ‘God’s covenant with Israel.’”

According to the authors of the resolution, they were so disturbed by the song title, which they said “is open to interpretation,” that they felt that the next politically and religiously correct step was to completely remove the word “Israel” altogether.

Full article via Presbyterian Church Voted on Erasing “Israel” from Prayers – Israel News.