Religion bill has elemental flaws, Christians tell Christian Porter

Federal Attorney-General Christian Porter. Picture: AAP

Australia’s peak Christian lobby group has told Christian Porter the government’s updated discrimination bill requires wholesale changes, as the Attorney-General prepares to re-engage with key faith groups ahead of finalising legislation to protect religious freedoms.

Fundamental Deficiencies Which Need To Be -Addressed

Mr Porter has come under pressure from leading faith, legal, business, education, health and social groups in the past week demanding his revamped religious discrimination legislation be heavily amended, delayed or dumped.

The Australian Christian Lobby, which has more than 170,000 supporters, described the bill as containing “fundamental deficiencies which need to be -addressed”.
In a submission lodged with the Attorney-General last Friday, the ACL, which helped raise more than $2 m to fund Israel Folau’s legal case against Rugby Australia, said Mr Porter’s draft legislation needed “considerable amendment before it is an effective religious discrimination bill”. The ACL said it wanted to work with the government and MPs to “facilitate changes to protect Australians from religious discrimination”.

Mr Porter on Thursday confirmed he would undertake “another brief round of consultations” before a final bill was put to parliament. He said there had been “sensible issues raised in some submissions around the effectiveness of drafting”, including in relation to Jewish aged-care and hospitals.

The Australian understands the bill is likely to be introduced in March before entering a parliamentary review process, and substantial amendments would be required to win passage, and bipartisan support, for a religious discrimination act.

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“Naturally that bill will be subject to parliamentary committee processes, and the parliamentary committee will make recommendations that will be considered by government as the bill progresses through parliament,” Mr Porter told The Australian.

The ACL said the government had “clearly made an effort” in responding to concerns of faith groups, including addressing two of the seven issues raised by the group, but felt the new bill failed to fix “fundamental flaws”.

The Law Council of Australia also expressed “significant concerns” about the religious discrimination draft bill, because of its “unorthodox features”, and warned of an adverse impact on businesses.

“These not only raise human rights concerns, but also complicate an already complex area of law,” the LCA submission said.

“By adding multifaceted and novel legal tests to existing legal frameworks, the bill is likely to create an onerous compliance burden for the business and community sectors alike.”
The rising opposition to the new tranche of legislation unveiled last year by Mr Porter sets up a potential showdown in the Coalition party-room and with Labor unless the concerns of stakeholder groups are addressed.

Acknowledging a change to the statements of belief clause in clarifying the definition of “vilify”, the ACL said adding the words “threaten” and “seriously intimidate” would hand tribunals and courts an opportunity to “knock out an otherwise protected statement of belief”.

It said the three “most important areas of concern” raised by the ACL in its original submission were not addressed. It said “lawful religious activity” remained undefined, “unjustifiable financial hardship” of an employer should not be a defence for discrimination against an employee who makes a statement of belief outside work and government employers should be included.

The Australian Government invited submissions on the second exposure drafts of a package of legislation on religious freedom between 10 December 2019 and 31 January 2020.
These are the:

  • Religious Discrimination Bill 2019
  • Religious Discrimination (Consequential Amendments) Bill 2019
  • Human Rights Legislation Amendment (Freedom of Religious) Bill 2019

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Original Source: Date-stamped: 2020 February 06 | Time-stamped: 11:55 PM | Author: by Geoff Chambers; Federal Political Correspondent. | Article Title: Religion bill has elemental flaws, Christians tell Christian Porter | Article Link:

Franklin Graham Fires Back At Christianity Today’s ‘Elitist Liberal’ Call For President Trump’s Removal


“Christianity Today released an editorial stating that President Trump should be removed from office—and they invoked my father’s name (I suppose to try to bring legitimacy to their statements), so I feel it is important for me to respond.

Yes, my father Billy Graham founded Christianity Today; but no, he would not agree with their opinion piece.

In fact, he would be very disappointed … My father knew Donald Trump, he believed in Donald Trump, and he voted for Donald Trump.

He believed that Donald J. Trump was the man for this hour in history for our nation…”

Franklin Graham

[CBN News] Evangelist Franklin Graham has responded to a fiery editorial calling for President Trump’s removal from office posted online Thursday by Christianity Today, a publication founded by his father. (Image: via CBN News)

Editor-In-Chief Mark Galli was posted the editorial just one day after Trump became the third president in United States history to be impeached by the House of Representatives. Galli wrote, “The impeachment of Donald Trump is a significant event in the story of our republic. It requires comment.”

“The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents,” he wrote.

But Galli didn’t stop there. He also called out Trump’s evangelical supporters writing, “Remember who you are and whom you serve. Consider how your justification of Mr. Trump influences your witness to your Lord and Savior. Consider what an unbelieving world will say if you continue to brush off Mr. Trump’s immoral words and behaviour in the cause of political expediency. If we don’t reverse course now, will anyone take anything we say about justice and righteousness with any seriousness for decades to come?”

In a statement posted to his Facebook page early Friday, Graham, the president and CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and of Samaritan’s Purse, an international Christian relief organization, wrote his response to the publication which was founded in 1956 by his father, the late Billy Graham. Graham, 67, noted his father would not have agreed with the publication’s stance and would have been very disappointed with it. He also revealed that the late evangelist even voted for the President.

Christianity Today released an editorial stating that President Trump should be removed from office—and they invoked my father’s name (I suppose to try to bring legitimacy to their statements), so I feel it is important for me to respond. Yes, my father Billy Graham founded Christianity Today; but no, he would not agree with their opinion piece. In fact, he would be very disappointed. I have not previously shared who my father voted for in the past election, but because of this article, I feel it is necessary to share it now. My father knew Donald Trump, he believed in Donald Trump, and he voted for Donald Trump. He believed that Donald J. Trump was the man for this hour in history for our nation.

“For Christianity Today to side with the Democrat Party in a totally partisan attack on the President of the United States is unfathomable. Christianity Today failed to acknowledge that not one single Republican voted with the Democrats to impeach the President. I know a number of Republicans in Congress, and many of them are strong Christians. If the President were guilty of what the Democrats claimed, these Republicans would have joined with the Democrats to impeach him. But the Democrats were not even unanimous—two voted against impeachment and one voted present. This impeachment was politically motivated, 100% partisan. Why would Christianity Today choose to take the side of the Democrat left whose only goal is to discredit and smear the name of a sitting president? They want readers to believe the Democrat leadership rather than believe the President of the United States.

“Look at all the President has accomplished in a very short time. The economy of our nation is the strongest it has been in 50 years, ISIS & the caliphate have been defeated, and the President has renegotiated trade deals to benefit all Americans. The list of accomplishments is long, but for me as a Christian, the fact that he is the most pro-life president in modern history is extremely important—and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that, to say it doesn’t count? The President has been a staunch defender of religious freedom at home and around the world—and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that? Also, the President has appointed conservative judges in record number—and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that? Christianity Today feels he should be removed from office because of false accusations that the President emphatically denies.

“Christianity Today said it’s time to call a spade a spade. The spade is this—Christianity Today has been used by the left for their political agenda. It’s obvious that Christianity Today has moved to the left and is representing the elitist liberal wing of evangelicalism.”

In his editorial, Galli not only writes about the alleged charges in which the President stands accused, but he also writes about Trump’s morality.

“The reason many are not shocked about this is that this president has dumbed down the idea of morality in his administration,” he wrote. “He has hired and fired a number of people who are now convicted criminals. He himself has admitted to immoral actions in business and his relationship with women, about which he remains proud. His Twitter feed alone—with its habitual string of mischaracterizations, lies, and slanders—is a near-perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused”

Graham responded directly to this assertion in his statement.

“Is President Trump guilty of sin? Of course, he is, as were all past presidents and as each one of us are, including myself,” he wrote. Therefore, let’s pray for the President as he continues to lead the affairs of our nation.”

Graham has often defended Trump during his term of office and has called for Christians to pray for the President.

According to The New York Times, CT has about 80,000 print subscribers. It is headquartered in the Chicago suburbs.

The Times also noted that Galli is retiring from the publication after the first of the year. He announced his retirement in October.

Rev. Samuel Rodriguez, president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, and Rev. Johnnie Moore, president of the Congress of Christian Leaders, released a statement opposing President Trump’s impeachment after the House voted Wednesday night.

On Wednesday evening Dec. 18, 2019, the United States House of Representatives embarked upon the only exclusively partisan impeachment effort in American history, and millions of Americans recognize that the House leadership is not actually impeaching the president of the United States but the policies and people that he represents.

“The Democrats in the House impeached millions of God-fearing, family-loving and patriotic Americans from the Democrat and Republican parties.

“They impeached millions of Americans – Democrat and Republican – who believe in one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all, including the president of the United States.

“They impeached millions of Americans – Democrat and Republican – who believe in due process, the rule of law and in the primacy of our free elections in determining our political leadership.

“They impeached millions of Americans – Democrat and Republican – who believe that it’s precisely the job of the executive, legislative and judicial branches of the United States government to intensely obstruct one another in order to check and balance our freewheeling democracy whose brilliance is unparalleled in history.

“They impeached millions of Americans – Democrat and Republican – who are profoundly proud of American power, accountability and generosity.

“They impeached millions of Americans – Democrat and Republican – who believe that every life is sacred in and out of the womb.

“They impeached millions of Americans – Democrat and Republican – who recognize that this nation is a nation of immigrants, support comprehensive immigration reform and demand that those who enter, do so legally.

“They impeached millions of Americans – Democrat and Republican – who believe that our religious freedoms were inserted into the first clause of the first sentence of our First Amendment for a reason.

“They impeached millions of Americans – Democrat and Republican – who recognize that socialism has been one of history’s most anti-freedom and most anti-Christian ideologies.

“They impeached millions of Americans – Democrat and Republican – who believe that we have the God-given right to raise our children according to our own beliefs without government interference.

“They impeached millions of Americans – Democrat and Republican – who repudiate every vestige of hatred, bigotry, discrimination and racism yet celebrate ideological intersectionality present in the tapestry of America’s myriad ethnic and religious communities.

“They impeached millions of Americans – Democrat and Republican – who believe in faith and science and oppose theocracy while cherishing freedom of conscience and belief.

“They impeached millions of Americans – Democrat and Republican – who believe that Uncle Sam is just an uncle but he will never be our Father.

“On Dec. 18, 2019 the Democrats in Congress chose political expediency over our election integrity, and we shall see in 2020 whether or not the party increasingly led by Rep. Adam Schiff and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will be rewarded or rejected by millions of Americans, Democrat and Republican.

“God bless our country as we endure this political drama on the eve of the most sacred occasion of our envied democracy, the year of the Presidential election.

“Our relentless prayers especially rest with the president of the United States and upon all of those who led us into this utterly partisan disregard of the most powerful tool our Founders gave us to undo a presidential election – which is exactly what this is an attempt to do.”

Rev. Samuel Rodriguez told The Times the editorial came as a surprise.

Christianity Today is very apolitical,” Mr. Rodriguez said. “We don’t do politics, we don’t even bring up politics in a board meeting.”

“I don’t think it should affect anything,” he noted.

Johnnie Moore, the current Commissioner for the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom also responded to the CT’s editorial in a series of tweets.

Johnnie Moore


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CBC 041: William Densberger (Col.)

Clinton Body Count (CBC)

Name: William Densberger (Col.) (Bill Clinton’s Bodyguards & Associates 1/4)


CBC 041: William Densberger (Col.)

V Corps Chief of Operations and Plans,


Other Team Members Were:

(Maj. Gen. Jarrett Robertson)

[Deputy Commanding General, V Corps, Europe]

(Col. Robert Kelly)

[V Corps Chief of Intelligence]

(Spec. Gary Rhodes, Jr)

[Crew Chief]

Robert Horan | @Robby12692 | Jun 11, 2018

Details: On February 23, 1993, a UH-60 Blackhawk helicopter crashed in Weisbaden, Germany.

A TEAM of Four Bodyguards & Associates of Bill Clinton‘s. KILLED!

Col. William Densberger [V Corps Chief of Operations and Plans, Europe] Was killed in the Mysterious UH-60 Blackhawk Helicopter Crash.

CBC 010: Honey Sherman

Clinton Body Count (CBC)

Name: Honey and Barry Sherman


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Details: Honey Sherman: She and Her Husband Barry were both found strangled to death in their home on Dec 15, 2017. Supposedly he strangled his wife, then himself.

Barry founded Apotex, a drug company that supplied medications to Haiti and Puerto Rico, through the Clinton Foundation.

Image: CBC10 Honey Sherman

Courageous Folau is fighting for all of us. by Alan Jones

Israel Folau with his wife Maria at Kenthurst Uniting Church. Picture: Hollie Adams

by Alan Jones

I’ve known Senator Cory Bernardi for a long time.

A finer human being I have never met.

Only this week he ruled out returning to the Liberal Party after having formed, in February 2017, his own party, the Australian Conservatives.

To demonstrate his honour he made the point this week, “If you’ve left an organisation, no matter how well-intentioned the decision was, I don’t think it’s right to say ‘can I come back?’”

This suggests a man with a commendable moral compass.

Against that, it is therefore instructive to note that in relation to Israel Folau, Cory Bernardi has said,

I find it extraordinary that quoting from the best-selling book in the history of the world is a breach of contractthis is corporate bullying. Alan Joyce wants to weigh into this Folau argument all the time. But he hasn’t weighed in on Emirates or the approach of the Middle East to gay people. He’s happy to do business with them.”

Cory Bernardi summed it up beautifully, “Regrettably, social activists rarely have the consistency gene, choosing instead to back the tribe over the principle.

As he also said, “Naturally, no one complained about the mention of drunks and adulterers, even though there are legions of them. But the reference to homosexuals sparked an avalanche of outrage from the PC brigade.

As Cory Bernardi said of Folau,

“… from his perspective, he’s trying to actually help people by reminding them that much of what is considered acceptable today is still considered sinful under Christian teachingstens of thousands of preachers, pastors and priests say the same thing to their congregations every single day.

It is instructive to compare an earlier statement by Israel Folau in which he said at the time of the same-sex marriage debate, “I love and respect all people for who they are and their opinions. But personally, I will not support gay marriage.”

Now, I did support gay marriage. I believe that love is very elusive, and if people can find genuine love they shouldn’t have to apologise for it or explain themselves in relation to it.

But Israel Folau expressed an alternative view.

This is what the battle is about; the right to do that without persecution.

As Janet Albrechtsen wrote this week,

“The sporting censors are stifling basic freedoms, be it Folau expressing his religious beliefs about homosexuals, adulterers and thieves or the right of a bloke watching an AFL match to direct a few choice words at an umpire.”

The former National Party MP, John “Wacka” Williams, has also highlighted the absurdity of the situation in which quoting the Bible contravenes vilification laws.

“Wacka” Williams said, “Three times I have been sworn into the Senate on my great, great grandfather’s Bible. If you go to court, you swear on the Bible to tell the truth. But don’t quote from the Bible or you’ll be sacked.”

As Miranda Devine wrote this week, and I concur,

“I don’t agree that homosexuals are automatically bound for hell any more than drunks, fornicators, idolaters or any of the bulk of Australians on his list of ‘sinners’ whom he urged to repent.

But why must Folau be sacked, hounded out of sport, bankrupted and threatened with audits by unnamed tax officials

why must his netball star wife, Silver Fern, Maria Folau, be attacked for posting a link to his GoFundMe account to the point that the ANZ Bank has expressed displeasure to Netball New Zealand.

ANZ Bank!

The sheer effrontery and audacity of ANZ sucks the oxygen out of the room. A bank, found at the Royal Commission to have some serious moral and ethical issues is now lecturing others on moral and ethical issues — self-awareness, zero.

The City Journal is a public policy magazine and website that covers a wide range of topics.

In a brilliant piece, recently, it offered an observation into which the Folau episode can be given some context; or anyone else who dares to speak against the settled orthodoxy.

And this is why people are subscribing to the Folau cause — not because they are bigots or even because they are religious; but rather as Miranda Devine has written, “They are donating because they know they are next. How many quiet Australians work for companies like Qantas and have to stay silent in the face of gratuitous, corporate activism that conflicts with their private values?”


Why are they silent and frightened to speak, though social media does provide them with some cover?

Well, City Journal explains:

“Under Stalinism, dissidents were liquidated or vanished into the gulag; the American left could only liquidate careers and disappear reputations …”

Fast forward to 2019 from the 1930s and that is what is happening with Israel Folau.

His career and that of his wife are being liquidated and their reputations are being “disappeared”.

The support for Israel Folau comes not just from the quiet Australians putting their hands in their pockets; people from the left and the right, in the political spectrum, are rallying to the cause.

Gillian Triggs, the former Human Rights Commissioner has said,

“I don’t think employers should have the power to sack someone and I don’t think that one should lose one’s job for putting a view in good faith that you have put, particularly as a reflection, that could be a religious view … it is a very wide view. It encompasses a lot of us. We are all going to go to hell. I think it’s really foolish and disproportionate to prevent him from preaching something that I think he probably believes quite deeply as a matter of religious expression.”

And this is the guts of it.

Thousands and thousands of quiet Australians have donated generously and many of them are the same quiet Australians who stood up for religious freedom at the federal election on May 18.

Martyn Iles is the General Manager of the Australian Christian Lobby and he said Israel Folau’s treatment “speaks volumes” of the religious freedom challenges in society and he argues Australian politicians cannot “wash their hands like Pontius Pilate” when it comes to the issue of religious freedom.

He said, correctly and ominously, “It’s time for our politicians to lead. It’s time for Scott Morrison and Anthony Albanese to outline in detail how they will protect people of faith and the important principles of freedom that are raised by Israel’s case.

Tom Mangan wrote to the newspapers this week, from Woy Woy,

“I’m a homosexual, an atheist and a serial drunk so I don’t know if there is a deep enough circle in hell for Israel to consign me to. However, I don’t give a toss what he thinks, or says, where or when he says it or to whom. I would rather see tough and vigorous discussion than this mealy-mouthed attempt to shut opinion down. I have confidence that the majority has enough common sense and fairness to handle full and open debate to a reasonable outcome.”

Tom Mangan

One of my listeners made a telling point, “Here is a question for Scott Morrison. The Australian rugby team is only allowed to have the national coat of arms on the jersey with the permission of the Australian Government. Will Scott Morrison, a Christian, allow, the Wallabies to continue as a national team, with the national coat of arms, while it persecutes a Christian rugby player?”

Among the mountain of correspondence I have received, I noted a piece from a, highly intelligent rugby international from the 60s, a magnificent centre, who wrote in part,

I can’t see why anyone would be offended by his restating the particular biblical text, especially if they didn’t believe in hell, then his beliefs become irrelevant.

As it turns out, I am one of those sinners and I am certainly not weighed down by guilt, nor do I feel that I have been vilified.

I don’t think you can regard this case as a normal one. It is a landmark event with enormous consequences for our society and with so many affected by the outcome.

I think it’s reasonable that all the expense doesn’t fall on one individual.

One of the most famous landmark decisions was started by Eddie Mabo with the case lasting 10 years. He probably didn’t pay a cent. And people wouldn’t argue against that as he was fighting for a principle which deserved financial support.”

Only this week, media-barons were at the National Press Club, in the wake of Federal Police raids, arguing for their freedoms to express views.

But, as one correspondent said, they don’t seem to “give a rat’s about similar individual rights”.


I wrote earlier this year on this matter and cited the words of Martin Niemoller, the German theologian and Lutheran Pastor, best known for his opposition to the Nazi regime during the 1930s. In his widely quoted poem, First They Came, he argued:

“First they came for the socialists and I didn’t speak out because I was not a socialist.

“Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn’t speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

“Then they came for the Jews and I didn’t speak out because I was not a Jew.

“And then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me.”

That is where we are today.

This courageous young Polynesian Christian is fighting for all of us. There is a corollary to the freedom of speech and it is the freedom not to listen and the freedom to ignore.

Put bluntly, this Folau affair is simply another excuse to beat up on Christians and their faith; and another example of rule 13 of Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.

Alinsky is an American writer and community organiser.

He died in 1972.

Rule 13 is simple.

It’s at work here against Israel and Maria Folau.

“Pick the target, freeze it, personalise it and polarise it.”

And that is why this young man deserves support —

For those of you who have written to me and expressed your hope that this gifted footballer is in a good place, Israel Folau told me on Tuesday night, “Going really well. Thanks, mate. Faith is strong and nothing to fear or worry about. Thanks for your support.”

There is a good man of moral courage leading as Will Swanton wrote beautifully in this paper on Wednesday, “a deep and meaningful existence that goes beyond himself”.

Think about it. Put to a similar test, would we respond in the same way?

No hate, just calm faith in his God. It is a comfort that seemingly only a deep Christian faith can provide.

Original Source: Date-stamped: 2019 JUNE 28   -  Time-stamped: 12:00 am   Author: Alan Jones  Article Title: Courageous Folau is fighting for all of us.  Article Link:


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