God is not mocked!

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The Apostle Paul wrote  Alexander the coppersmith did me great harmthe Lord will repay him according to his deeds2 Timothy 4:14 ESV,  many would say that was wrong.

The question to ask is:

• Can we see this precept within the word of God? “YES”

• Was the Apostle praying according to Gods way of doing things? “YES”

• Does God Reward Every Man According to His Works? “YES”


The bible is clear only a Fool says there is no God and any person who claims to be a Christian and conducts their lives outside of Gods boundary and thinks the Grace Card will give them a get out of judgement pass are even greater fools. Any attempt to play ‘God’ as a Fool is an act of insanity which bring a pay day that has eternal consequences, clearly we can not live a habitual life of disobedience to Gods Word and ways! ie So many “alleged christian” live life like the devil and then think they’ll walk into heavens rewards of Well done Good and faithful Servant, because of gods Grace. 

We have large group of people naming them selves as ‘Christians’, yet have laid aside biblical precepts of conduct in ethics and morals which have been clearly addressed in Gods Word, holding the opinion that God didn’t really mean that or its all OK now because of the age of grace we live in. 

Galatians

Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.
Galatians 6:7 (ESV)

Psalm

The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does goodPsalm 14:1 ESV

Psalm

Give them according to their deeds, and according to the wickedness of their endeavours: give them after the work of their hands; render to them their desert. Psalm 28:4 KJV

We have a sea of “believer” that think God doesn’t mind? or doesn’t care about it! Who are living their lives not in subjection to the word of God but in subjection to their own opinions. 

Do we really believe we are smarter than God and He’s got it wrong regarding ethics and moral conduct; do we really believe Gods got His “RIGHT” and “WRONGS” WRONG! Well that’s what we are saying when we live outside of Gods Boundaries and at the same time claim to be Gods children destined to Heavens Promises.

Since the time when RIGHT and WRONG was established on this earth by God he has never changed or modified or corrected those standards no generation of humanity has persuaded God that he had got it wrong and his wrongs were WRONG! Neither will this Generation, the consequences of a Nations sins and a individuals sins will be accounted for. Roman 6 shows the path of wilful sin which is not addresses, it will take the person to the place of becoming a reprobate (a person rejected by God and beyond hope of salvation.)

“Yes we live in the Age of Grace” However Grace doesn’t provide a gateway to allow the believer to habitually conduct their ethics and morality outside of Gods Word, God is not mocked “The Lord will repay according Deeds”  I say that because the Word of God has a sea of scripture that says this!

1 Corinthians 3, 1 Peter 1, 2 Corinthians 5, 2 Corinthians 11, Matthew 16, Revelation 2, Revelation 18, Revelation 20, Revelation 22, Romans 2, 1 Kings 3, 1 Kings 8, 2 Chronicles 6, 2 Samuel 3, 2 Samuel 22, Ezekiel 7, Ezekiel 18, Ezekiel 24, Ezekiel 35, Ezekiel 36, Ezekiel 39, Hosea 12, Isaiah 59, Jeremiah 17, Jeremiah 21, Jeremiah 25, Jeremiah 32, Jeremiah 50, Job 34, Lamentations 3, Leviticus 26, Nehemiah 6, Proverbs 24, Psalm 7, Psalm 18, Psalm 28, Psalm 28, Psalm 62 & Zechariah 1 “SEE BELOW”


Romans 2:6-11 ESV

He will render to each one according to his worksto those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal lifebut for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. 11 For God shows no partiality.


Leviticus 26:21-26 ESV

21 Then if you walk contrary to me and will not listen to me, I will continue striking you, sevenfold for your sins. 22 And I will let loose the wild beasts against you, which shall bereave you of your children and destroy your livestock and make you few in number, so that your roads shall be deserted.

23 And if by this discipline you are not turned to me but walk contrary to me, 24 then I also will walk contrary to you, and I myself will strike you sevenfold for your sins. 25 And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall execute vengeance for the covenant. And if you gather within your cities, I will send pestilence among you, and you shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy. 26 When I break your supply of bread, ten women shall bake your bread in a single oven and shall dole out your bread again by weight, and you shall eat and not be satisfied.


2 Samuel 3:38-39 ESV

38 And the king said to his servants, “Do you not know that a prince and a great man has fallen this day in Israel? 39 And I was gentle today, though anointed king. These men, the sons of Zeruiah, are more severe than I. The Lord repay the evildoer according to his wickedness!


2 Samuel 22:21-25 ESV

21 The Lord dealt with me according to my righteousness;
according to the cleanness of my hands he rewarded me.
22 For I have kept the ways of the Lord
and have not wickedly departed from my God.
23 For all his rules were before me,
and from his statutes I did not turn aside.
24 I was blameless before him,
and I kept myself from guilt.
25 And the Lord has rewarded me according to my righteousness,
according to my cleanness in his sight.


1 Kings 3:6 ESV

And Solomon said,You have shown great and steadfast love to your servant David my father, because he walked before you in faithfulness, in righteousness, and in uprightness of heart toward you. And you have kept for him this great and steadfast love and have given him a son to sit on his throne this day.


1 Kings 8:31-32 ESV

31 If a man sins against his neighbour and is made to take an oath and comes and swears his oath before your altar in this house, 32 then hear in heaven and act and judge your servants, condemning the guilty by bringing his conduct on his own head, and vindicating the righteous by rewarding him according to his righteousness.


1 Kings 8:37-40 ESV

37 If there is famine in the land, if there is pestilence or blight or mildew or locust or caterpillar, if their enemy besieges them in the land at their gates, whatever plague, whatever sickness there is, 38 whatever prayer, whatever plea is made by any man or by all your people Israel, each knowing the affliction of his own heart and stretching out his hands toward this house, 39 then hear in heaven your dwelling place and forgive and act and render to each whose heart you know, according to all his ways (for you, you only, know the hearts of all the children of mankind),40 that they may fear you all the days that they live in the land that you gave to our fathers.


2 Chronicles 6:22-23, 28-31 ESV

22 If a man sins against his neighbour and is made to take an oath and comes and swears his oath before your altar in this house, 23 then hear from heaven and act and judge your servants, repaying the guilty by bringing his conduct on his own head, and vindicating the righteous by rewarding him according to his righteousness.

28 If there is famine in the land, if there is pestilence or blight or mildew or locust or caterpillar, if their enemies besiege them in the land at their gates, whatever plague, whatever sickness there is, 29 whatever prayer, whatever plea is made by any man or by all your people Israel, each knowing his own affliction and his own sorrow and stretching out his hands toward this house, 30 then hear from heaven your dwelling place and forgive and render to each whose heart you know, according to all his waysfor you, you only, know the hearts of the children of mankind, 31 that they may fear you and walk in your ways all the days that they live in the land that you gave to our fathers.


Nehemiah 6:14 ESV

14 Remember Tobiah and Sanballat, O my God, according to these things that they did, and also the prophetess Noadiah and the rest of the prophets who wanted to make me afraid.


Job 34:10-12 ESV

10 Therefore, hear me, you men of understanding:
far be it from God that he should do wickedness,
and from the Almighty that he should do wrong.
11 For according to the work of a man he will repay him,
and according to his ways he will make it befall him.
12 Of a truth, God will not do wickedly,
and the Almighty will not pervert justice.


Psalm 7:8-10 ESV

The Lord judges the peoples;
judge me, O Lord, according to my righteousness
and according to the integrity that is in me.
Oh, let the evil of the wicked come to an end,
and may you establish the righteous—
you who test the minds and hearts, 
O righteous God!
10 My shield is with God,
who saves the upright in heart.


Psalm 18:20-24 ESV

20 The Lord dealt with me according to my righteousness;
according to the cleanness of my hands he rewarded me.
21 For I have kept the ways of the Lord,
and have not wickedly departed from my God.
22 For all his rules were before me,
and his statutes I did not put away from me.
23 I was blameless before him,
and I kept myself from my guilt.
24 So the Lord has rewarded me according to my righteousness,
according to the cleanness of my hands in his sight.


Psalm 28:3-5 ESV

Do not drag me off with the wicked,
with the workers of evil,
who speak peace with their neighbour
while evil is in their hearts.
Give to them according to their work
and according to the evil of their deeds;
give to them according to the work of their hands;
render them their due reward.
Because they do not regard the works of the Lord
or the work of his hands,
he will tear them down and build them up no more.


Psalm 62:11-12 ESV

11 Once God has spoken;
twice have I heard this:
that power belongs to God,
12     and that to you, O Lord, belongs steadfast love.
For you will render to a man
according to his work.


Proverbs 24:11-12 ESV

11 Rescue those who are being taken away to death;
hold back those who are stumbling to the slaughter.
12 If you say,Behold, we did not know this,”
does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?
Does not he who keeps watch over your soul know it,
and will he not repay man according to his work?


Isaiah 59:15-18 ESV

15 Truth is lacking,
and he who departs from evil makes himself a prey.

The Lord saw it, and it displeased him 
that there was no justice.
16 He saw that there was no man,
and wondered that there was no one to intercede;
then his own arm brought him salvation,
and his righteousness upheld him.
17 He put on righteousness as a breastplate,
and a helmet of salvation on his head;
he put on garments of vengeance for clothing,
and wrapped himself in zeal as a cloak.
18 According to their deeds, so will he repay,
wrath to his adversaries, repayment to his enemies;
to the coast-lands he will render repayment.


Jeremiah 17:10 ESV

10 I the Lord search the heart
and test the mind, 
to give every man according to his ways,
according to the fruit of his deeds.


Jeremiah 21:12-14 ESV

12 O house of David! Thus says the Lord:

“‘Execute justice in the morning,
and deliver from the hand of the oppressor
him who has been robbed,
lest my wrath go forth like fire,
and burn with none to quench it,
because of your evil deeds.’

13 Behold, I am against you, O inhabitant of the valley,
O rock of the plain,
declares the Lord;
you who say, ‘Who shall come down against us,
or who shall enter our habitations?’
14 I will punish you according to the fruit of your deeds,
declares the Lord;
I will kindle a fire in her forest,
and it shall devour all that is around her.


Jeremiah 25:12-14 ESV

12 Then after seventy years are completed, I will punish the king of Babylon and that nation, the land of the Chaldeans, for their iniquity, declares the Lord, making the land an everlasting waste. 13 I will bring upon that land all the words that I have uttered against it, everything written in this book, which Jeremiah prophesied against all the nations.14 For many nations and great kings shall make slaves even of them, and I will recompense them according to their deeds and the work of their hands.


Jeremiah 32:17-24 ESV

17 Ah, Lord God! It is you who have made the heavens and the earth by your great power and by your outstretched arm! Nothing is too hard for you18 You show steadfast love to thousands, but you repay the guilt of fathers to their children after them, O great and mighty God, whose name is the Lord of hosts, 19 great in counsel and mighty in deed, whose eyes are open to all the ways of the children of man, rewarding each one according to his ways and according to the fruit of his deeds20 You have shown signs and wonders in the land of Egypt, and to this day in Israel and among all mankind, and have made a name for yourself, as at this day. 21 You brought your people Israel out of the land of Egypt with signs and wonders, with a strong hand and outstretched arm, and with great terror. 22 And you gave them this land, which you swore to their fathers to give them, a land flowing with milk and honey. 23 And they entered and took possession of it. But they did not obey your voice or walk in your law. They did nothing of all you commanded them to do. Therefore you have made all this disaster come upon them. 24 Behold, the siege mounds have come up to the city to take it, and because of sword and famine and pestilence the city is given into the hands of the Chaldeans who are fighting against it. What you spoke has come to pass, and behold, you see it.


Jeremiah 50:28-30 ESV

28 “A voice! They flee and escape from the land of Babylon, to declare in Zion the vengeance of the Lord our God, vengeance for his temple.

29 Summon archers against Babylon, all those who bend the bow. Encamp around her; let no one escape. Repay her according to her deeds; do to her according to all that she has done. For she has proudly defied the Lord, the Holy One of Israel30 Therefore her young men shall fall in her squares, and all her soldiers shall be destroyed on that day, declares the Lord.


Lamentations 3:61-64 ESV

61 You have heard their taunts, O Lord,
all their plots against me.
62 The lips and thoughts of my assailants
are against me all the day long.
63 Behold their sitting and their rising;
I am the object of their taunts.

64 You will repay them, O Lord,
according to the work of their hands.


Ezekiel 7:2-9 ESV

And you, O son of man, thus says the Lord God to the land of Israel: An end! The end has come upon the four corners of the land. Now the end is upon you, and I will send my anger upon you; I will judge you according to your ways, and I will punish you for all your abominations.And my eye will not spare you, nor will I have pity, but I will punish you for your ways, while your abominations are in your midst. Then you will know that I am the Lord.

Thus says the Lord God: Disaster after disaster! Behold, it comes.An end has come; the end has come; it has awakened against you. Behold, it comesYour doom has come to you, O inhabitant of the land. The time has come; the day is near, a day of tumult, and not of joyful shouting on the mountains. Now I will soon pour out my wrath upon you, and spend my anger against you, and judge you according to your ways, and I will punish you for all your abominationsAnd my eye will not spare, nor will I have pity. I will punish you according to your ways, while your abominations are in your midst. Then you will know that I am the Lord, who strikes.


Ezekiel 7:27 ESV

27 The king mourns, the prince is wrapped in despair, and the hands of the people of the land are paralyzed by terror. According to their way I will do to them, and according to their judgements I will judge them, and they shall know that I am the Lord.”


Ezekiel 18:20-30 ESV

20 The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.

21 But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 22 None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live. 23 Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live? 24 But when a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die.

25 Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Hear now, O house of Israel: Is my way not just? Is it not your ways that are not just? 26 When a righteous person turns away from his righteousness and does injustice, he shall die for it; for the injustice that he has done he shall die. 27 Again, when a wicked person turns away from the wickedness he has committed and does what is just and right, he shall save his life.28 Because he considered and turned away from all the transgressions that he had committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 29 Yet the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ O house of Israel, are my ways not just? Is it not your ways that are not just?

30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, declares the Lord God. Repent and turn from all your transgressions, lest iniquity be your ruin. 


Ezekiel 24:14 ESV

14 I am the Lord. I have spoken; it shall come to pass; I will do it. I will not go back; I will not spare; I will not relentaccording to your ways and your deeds you will be judged, declares the Lord God.


Ezekiel 35:9-11 ESV

I will make you a perpetual desolation, and your cities shall not be inhabited. Then you will know that I am the Lord.

10 Because you said, ‘These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will take possession of them’—although the Lord was there— 11 therefore, as I live, declares the Lord God, I will deal with you according to the anger and envy that you showed because of your hatred against them. And I will make myself known among them, when I judge you.


Ezekiel 36:17-19 ESV

17 Son of man, when the house of Israel lived in their own land, they defiled it by their ways and their deeds. Their ways before me were like the uncleanness of a woman in her menstrual impurity. 18 So I poured out my wrath upon them for the blood that they had shed in the land, for the idols with which they had defiled it. 19 I scattered them among the nations, and they were dispersed through the countries. In accordance with their ways and their deeds I judged them.


Ezekiel 39:23-24 ESV

23 And the nations shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity, because they dealt so treacherously with me that I hid my face from them and gave them into the hand of their adversaries, and they all fell by the sword. 24 I dealt with them according to their uncleanness and their transgressions, and hid my face from them.


Hosea 12:2 ESV

The Lord has an indictment against Judah
and will punish Jacob according to his ways;
he will repay him according to his deeds.


Zechariah 1:4-6 ESV

Do not be like your fathers, to whom the former prophets cried out, ‘Thus says the Lord of hosts, Return from your evil ways and from your evil deeds.’ But they did not hear or pay attention to me, declares the Lord. Your fathers, where are they? And the prophets, do they live forever? But my words and my statutes, which I commanded my servants the prophets, did they not overtake your fathers? So they repented and said, ‘As the Lord of hosts purposed to deal with us for our ways and deeds, so has he dealt with us.’


Matthew 16:24-27 ESV

24 Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. 25 For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. 26 For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul? 27 For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done.


Romans 2:1-11 ESV

Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God? Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed.

He will render to each one according to his worksto those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury. There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, 10 but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. 11 For God shows no partiality.


1 Corinthians 3:5-15 ESV 

What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, as the Lord assigned to each. I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God who gives the growth. He who plants and he who waters are one, and each will receive his wages according to his labour. For we are God’s fellow workers. You are God’s field, God’s building.

10 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it. Let each one take care how he builds upon it. 11 For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw— 13 each one’s work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 14 If the work that anyone has built on the foundation survives, he will receive a reward15 If anyone’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.


2 Corinthians 5:8-10 ESV 

Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord. So whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to please him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil.


2 Corinthians 11:13-15 ESV 

13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 15 So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds.


1 Peter 1:17-21 ESV 

17 And if you call on him as Father who judges impartially according to each one’s deeds, conduct yourselves with fear throughout the time of your exile, 18 knowing that you were ransomed from the futile ways inherited from your forefathers, not with perishable things such as silver or gold, 19 but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot. 20 He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you 21 who through him are believers in God, who raised him from the dead and gave him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.


Revelation 2:20-23 ESV 

20 But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. 21 I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality.22 Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of her works, 23 and I will strike her children dead. And all the churches will know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you according to your works.


Revelation 18:1-6 ESV 

After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was made bright with his glory. And he called out with a mighty voice,

Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great!
She has become a dwelling place for demons,
a haunt for every unclean spirit,
a haunt for every unclean bird,
a haunt for every unclean and detestable beast.
For all nations have drunk 
the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality,
and the kings of the earth have committed immorality with her,
and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the power of her luxurious living.

Then I heard another voice from heaven saying,

Come out of her, my people,
lest you take part in her sins,
lest you share in her plagues;
for her sins are heaped high as heaven,
and God has remembered her iniquities.
Pay her back as she herself has paid back others,
and repay her double for her deeds;
mix a double portion for her in the cup she mixed.


Revelation 20:11-15 ESV

11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them.12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done.14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15 And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.


Revelation 22:11-12 ESV 

11 Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.

12 Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay each one for what he has done.


 

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20 Nov. Tamaki Shakes~Heads-up “Could God be dealing with a Nation”

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WHAT POSITION SHOULD A BELIEVER TAKE!

NO

ITS POSSIBLE

YES


Prime Questions to be resolved first: “remember this is generic questions on God and His dealings with mankind

1.0 Does God Chastise and make Judgments concerning individuals and or Nations: Yes/No

2.0 Is there clear Biblical examples recorded in the bible concerning Gods dealings with “Men” and “Nations”? Yes/No

3.0 Is there clear biblical evidences where God uses the elements to Judge an individual and or Nations Yes/No

4.0 Is God the same God of the Old Testament as the God of the New Testament? Yes/No

5.0 Has God warned of other pending Judgments to come prophetically yet to arrive on individuals and mankind? Yes/No

6.0 Does God sound an alarm and warn individuals and nations of pending judgements if they do not cease and desist in actions God says Stop doing. Yes/No

7.0 Does God raise up voices and attract the individual or nations attention to hear the declaring of the warning and provide opportunity to turn around? Yes/No

8.0 Does God use the elements to Gain people attention and also on occasions use these same elements to execute judgements and punishments and are there biblical examples of him doing just such things Yes/No

My Premise then is:

geggeg2ic-150sqIf you score Yes eight times the possibilities of the comments of Ps. B Tamaki are not beyond the realms of possibilities and we would be wise to be slow to denounce and proclaim otherwise just in case we are found speaking contrary to God Himself, I just plain do not know all the Facts that God knows or have inside information to confirm or deny this claims. Hence I will not.

As Ive clearly tried to show in previous articles the eight questions biblically score YES! hence Im taking the position “ITS POSSIBLE” as I personally think prudence is to not be found fighting God and becoming his Adversary; which in all cases in the bible didn’t bode well for those whom felt they could take God on Ask Lucifer how that position went, its clearly echoed in the Word of God and if we read Revelations the Final solution to that foolishness is the LAKE of FIRE, here is a hot tip its not the desired real-estate one should plan to end up in for eternity, JUST SAYING.

The Key to avoiding such possibilities is to make sure you are in line with Gods position on all that the Bible reveals as right and wrong I would candidly suggest ones not going to go too wrong starting there and sticking to that and that’s the bottom line for a nation “Civil Rules of Conduct and Morality” ie you do not legalise conduct which God clearly declares wrong. Im not talking a National Religion, Im talking about a Nation who claims to be a “Christian” nation should at least embrace base line biblical codes of conduct. period… Now if the Nation has decided to divorce God and shift away from God, then it is a PAGAN NATION and will immediately open it self to Chastisements and Judgments as God see fit. Hey lets remember God is GOD and as the bible clearly points out JUDGE and JUST.

Why are so many “Christians” having such a difficult time coming to grips with who God is, have the masses been feed a half truth have the pulpits failed to teach the whole counsel of God and miss led a whole generation of believers into a delusion image of God which is only a part Truth, from where I looking this seems to be the case as the ground swell from [?”believers”?] sure indicates this.

Isaiah 40 is all about where did you get that image of who God is and a cry from the prophet to get the correct footprint of God within our spirit and heart as its is the very source of power that will enable the person to run and not get weary and to rise-up amongst adversity like on eagles wings. When one reads Isaiah 40 the inflated ego of humanity suffers a serious rupture and deflates very quickly, our obsessions with self importance are taken behind the woodshed for us endure/[enjoy for the (masochist)] a lesson in humility, for myself I personally find no pleasure in chastisement hence a burning desire to avoid such moments thrives within, as I’m very aware we cant hide anything from God unlike we can from people “sometimes” particularly if your running for president as we’ve seen both side have taken “look what you’ve done moment” flashed before the whole world.

Isaiah 40 Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.

2 Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the Lord’s hand double for all her sins.

3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

4 Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:

5 And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

6 The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:

7 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the Lord bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.

8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

9 O Zion, that bringest good tidings, get thee up into the high mountain; O Jerusalem, that bringest good tidings, lift up thy voice with strength; lift it up, be not afraid; say unto the cities of Judah, Behold your God!

10 Behold, the Lord God will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.

11 He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.

12 Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?

13 Who hath directed the Spirit of the Lord, or being his counsellor hath taught him?

14 With whom took he counsel, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of judgment, and taught him knowledge, and shewed to him the way of understanding?

15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.

16 And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering.

17 All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.

18 To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?

19 The workman melteth a graven image, and the goldsmith spreadeth it over with gold, and casteth silver chains.

20 He that is so impoverished that he hath no oblation chooseth a tree that will not rot; he seeketh unto him a cunning workman to prepare a graven image, that shall not be moved.

21 Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?

22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

23 That bringeth the princes to nothing; he maketh the judges of the earth as vanity.

24 Yea, they shall not be planted; yea, they shall not be sown: yea, their stock shall not take root in the earth: and he shall also blow upon them, and they shall wither, and the whirlwind shall take them away as stubble.

25 To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One.

26 Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth.

27 Why sayest thou, O Jacob, and speakest, O Israel, My way is hid from the Lord, and my judgment is passed over from my God?

28 Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

29 He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength.

30 Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall:

31 But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

geggeg2ic-150sqI’m beginning to wonder if we have an epidemic of Denial within Christendom

as it just seem to me a sea of Christian’s cannot bring themselves to acknowledge the eight questions demand the answer YES


Denialis not a river in Egypt1)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial

Denial, in ordinary English usage, is asserting that a statement or allegation is not true. The same word, and also abnegation (German: Verneinung), is used for a psychological defense mechanism postulated by psychoanalyst Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. An individual that exhibits such behaviour is described as a denialist or true believer. Denial also could mean denying the happening of an event or the reliability of information, which can lead to a feeling of aloofness and to the ignoring of possibly beneficial information.


THE SUBJECT MAY USE:

• Simple Denial: deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether

• Minimisation: admit the fact but deny its seriousness (a combination of denial and rationalization)

• Projection: admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility by blaming somebody or something else.


DENIAL OF FACT:

In this form of denial, someone avoids a fact by utilizing deception. This lying can take the form of an outright falsehood (commission), leaving out certain details to tailor a story (omission), or by falsely agreeing to something (assent, also referred to as “yessing” behaviour). Someone who is in denial of fact is typically using lies to avoid facts they think may be painful to themselves or others.


DENIAL OF IMPACT:

Denial of impact involves a person’s avoiding thinking about or understanding the harms of his or her behaviour has caused to self or others, i.e. denial of the consequences. Doing this enables that person to avoid feeling a sense of guilt and it can prevent him or her from developing remorse or empathy for others. Denial of impact reduces or eliminates a sense of pain or harm from poor decisions.


DENIAL OF DENIAL:

This can be a difficult concept for many people to identify with in themselves, but is a major barrier to changing hurtful behaviours. Denial of denial involves thoughts, actions and behaviours which bolster confidence that nothing needs to be changed in one’s personal behaviour. This form of denial typically overlaps with all of the other forms of denial, but involves more self-delusion. Denial at this level can have significant consequences both personally and at a societal level.

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The ongoing debacle concerning comments Ps. Brian Tamaki has caught my attention and I’ve felt compelled to highlight some things about God that are being overlooked or disbelief or just out right rejected in spite of the Word of God reveals. The topic clearly has engaged a major river of emotions however we must move out from that river and draw from a well which reveals TRUTH. God’s Word.

Someone incredibly dear to my heart in NZ wrote.

“Most of these poor affected people in Kaikoura are probably not homosexual or having affairs so why point the finger”

geggeg2ic-150sqI replied Sadly your observation is correct people who are not “homosexual or adulterers, Fornicators (see 1 Cor 6:9)” etc. will suffer consequences of the guilt why because their “compliance and acceptance” of what is “wrong as being right.” If the people stood up and made their voice heard to political player’s maybe they would not have been bold to embrace and legalize what GOD declares is an abomination before him. A big league item in Gods list of Do Not….

Doing such things gains God’s attention in a manner which if unheeded will spell calamity and judgements to a nation. There is just no escape from that reality Im bound to say “cause and effect”. Nobody thumbs up their nose at God and walks away with no consequences foolish is the man or nation which does so or thinks so.

I then went on to point out “Im must reiterate my thoughts are not driven to defend Tamaki I don’t agree with his word of faith doctrine however I do defend Gods word and truth. I’m looking at “is God shaking” (fig.) The nation to get its attention, that I could not in good conscience rule out the possiblity that it is (please also be clear I am not saying it is either) there sure is firm reason to believe that may well be the case, but what’s happening now is nothing to the moment when God metes out a Nations punishments it will be far more unpleasant and far reaching and devastating that I can a sure all. When God’s says enough. No more.”

The Question to be asked: Is or could be God speaking and a Nation is not Listening?

Also a special person and I consider a friend wrote “I have found my God to be a God of love. and compassion, and He doesn’t work in ways that this minister describes”

geggeg2ic-150sqMy reply was: True … “God is LOVE” However GOD does work in the manner Ps. Tamaki speaks of its clearly in the word of God, and the God of Love also is the Judge and metes out chastisements and judgements to individuals and nations, that too is clear in the word of God, Consider the flood of Noah, consider the sin of Ai consider Israel’s final destruction in AD-70, which laid in effect until 1948 or Ananias and Sapphira, let alone what’s describe yet to come in the book of revelations which is judgements by the same Loving God you’ve talk about.

LOVE AND JUDGE AND JUST IS GOD HE IS LIGHT AND IN HIM IS NO SHADOW OF TURNING, SOVEREIGN IS HE WEIGHING AND BALANCING NATIONS AND PEOPLES HE DOES.

And we know the sin of one can effect a whole nation the sin of Ai clearly shows this to be so. I then also to this friend went on to point out “Im must reiterate my thoughts are not driven to defend Tamaki I don’t agree with his word of faith doctrine however I do defend Gods word and truth. I’m looking at “is God shaking” (fig.) The nation to get its attention, that I could not rule out there sure is firm reason to believe that may well be the case, but what’s happening now is nothing to the moment when God metes out a Nations punishments it will be far more unpleasant and far reaching and devastating that I can a sure all. When God’s says enough. No more.”

Again I hear the echo of: “Is or could be God speaking and a Nation is not Listening?

I can’t help but wonder and I’m reminded of the account of the Vineyard and the Owner recorded in the new testament we must remember the earth and all there is belongs to GOD not us we as just likened to the “husbandmen (tenant farmers)” It would wise to be very careful we are not behaving just as the account recorded below because the final outcome is not pleasant

Luke 20:9-19 KJV

9 Then began he to speak to the people this parable; A certain man planted a vineyard, and let it forth to husbandmen, and went into a far country for a long time.

10 And at the season he sent a servant to the husbandmen, that they should give him of the fruit of the vineyard: but the husbandmen beat him, and sent him away empty.

11 And again he sent another servant: and they beat him also, and entreated him shamefully, and sent him away empty.

12 And again he sent a third: and they wounded him also, and cast him out.

13 Then said the lord of the vineyard, What shall I do? I will send my beloved son: it may be they will reverence him when they see him.

14 But when the husbandmen saw him, they reasoned among themselves, saying, This is the heir: come, let us kill him, that the inheritance may be ours.

15 So they cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. What therefore shall the lord of the vineyard do unto them?

16 He shall come and destroy these husbandmen, and shall give the vineyard to others. And when they heard it, they said, God forbid.

17 And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?

18 Whosoever shall fall upon that stone shall be broken; but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

19 And the chief priests and the scribes the same hour sought to lay hands on him; and they feared the people: for they perceived that he had spoken this parable against them.

Luke 20:9-19 NLT

Parable of the Evil Farmers

9 Now Jesus turned to the people again and told them this story: “A man planted a vineyard, leased it to tenant farmers, and moved to another country to live for several years. 10 At the time of the grape harvest, he sent one of his servants to collect his share of the crop. But the farmers attacked the servant, beat him up, and sent him back empty-handed. 11 So the owner sent another servant, but they also insulted him, beat him up, and sent him away empty-handed. 12 A third man was sent, and they wounded him and chased him away.

13 “‘What will I do?’ the owner asked himself. ‘I know! I’ll send my cherished son. Surely they will respect him.’

14 “But when the tenant farmers saw his son, they said to each other, ‘Here comes the heir to this estate. Let’s kill him and get the estate for ourselves!’ 15 So they dragged him out of the vineyard and murdered him.

What do you suppose the owner of the vineyard will do to them?”Jesus asked. 16 I’ll tell you—he will come and kill those farmers and lease the vineyard to others.

How terrible that such a thing should ever happen,” his listeners protested.

17 Jesus looked at them and said, “Then what does this Scripture mean?

‘The stone that the builders rejected
has now become the cornerstone.’1)see Ps 20:17 KJV Ps 118:22 KJV

18 Everyone who stumbles over that stone will be broken to pieces, and it will crush anyone it falls on.”

19 The teachers of religious law and the leading priests wanted to arrest Jesus immediately because they realized he was telling the story against them—they were the wicked farmers. But they were afraid of the people’s reaction.

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17 Nov. As I read the fury of editorials in New Zealand directed at Rev. Brian Tamaki which have burst in the media of New Zealand concerning the Earthquakes and Judgments of God to Nations Im compelled to present a further rebuttal to Mr. Tamaki’s dissenters and their critiques & criticisms: also see my first response 16 Nov. Titled: “Bishop Brian Tamaki blames gays, murderers and sinners for earthquakes

What saddens me most is the deafening silence from Christians… in New Zealand and beyond. Why are they afraid to voice the truth of Gods word concerning how God does deal with Nations from a biblical perspective.

Being Holders of the Truth yet not willing to be a Sound on the Wall warning the Nation of consequences when a nation abandons that which is right before God. Has consequences too!


Stating the obvious:

Prime Key: GOD creator of Heaven and Earth whose son is Jesus the Christ is GOD and Heads-up we are NOT GOD or a god!

“Oh what is mere man that you oh are mindful of him.”

Psalm 144:3 ESV

Psalm 8:4-8 NKJV

paraphrased view Rev. Gary

geggeg2ic-150sqCommentary: It amazes me the evidence of how many people struggle to accept or believe God creator of Heaven and Earth can, would and does use the elements to bring correction or judgement.

Well let put the obvious up the first Historical record; the preserved narrative of “the Great Deluge” The Flood” Noah’s Ark,  The best known of the flood accounts is, firstly, the biblical account in Genesis, and secondly, the one found in the Gilgamesh Epic. 1)http://www.conservapedia.com/Great_Flood#Flood_accounts


What Flood? There is a Wealth of Deluge Legends

Mesopotamia

Tablets excavated from Iraq recount the myths of ancient Mesopotamia. They speak of a vanished culture in Sumer and of a king called Gilgamesh. He was renowned for his great wisdom and knowledge. Gilgamesh related the story of a worldwide flood. This was told to him by Utnapishtim, a king of a pre-flood civilisation and a survivor of the catastrophe.

The story relates that Ea, lord of the waters and man’s guardian, warned Utnapishtim of the deluge by which the gods planned to exterminate mankind. Ea told Utnapishtim to “tear down your house and build a boat” and to “take up into the boat the seed of all living creatures. … [E]ach side of the deck measured one hundred and twenty cubits, making a square”. There were seven decks in all. The flood itself was frightening and full of fury. Utnapishtim recounted that ‘the god of the storm turned daylight to darkness, when he smashed the land like a cup’. Once the tempest had subsided, Utnapishtim ‘looked at the face of the world and there was silence, all mankind was returned to clay. The surface of the sea stretched flat as a rooftop … on every side was the waste of water’. Utnapishtim loosed a dove who returned finding no resting place, and then a swallow with the same result. Finally, a loosed raven did not return. The boat came to ground on a mountaintop and Utnapishtim offered a sacrifice.2)Sanders, N.K., The Epic of Gilgamesh, Penguin Classics, London, UK, pp. 108-113, 1972

North American Indians

The North American Indians have several flood stories. One from the Choctaw tribe tells how, long ago, men became so corrupt that the Great Spirit destroyed them in a flood. Only one man was saved—a prophet whose warnings the people disregarded, and whom the Great Spirit then directed to build a raft from sassafras logs. After many weeks, a small bird guided the prophet to an island where the Great Spirit changed the bird into a beautiful woman who became the wife of the prophet. Their children then repopulated the world.*3)Morrison, W.B., Ancient Choctaw Legend of the Great Flood, www.isd.net/mboucher/choctaw/flood1.htm , September 8, 2000. *4)http://mike-boucher.com/wordpress/?page_id=145 Nov, 2016

Australian Aboriginal flood stories

Likewise, there are several Australian Aboriginal flood stories. One tells how, long ago, there was a flood that covered the mountains so that many of the Nurrumbunguttias, or spirit men and women, were drowned. Others, including Pund-jil, were caught up by a whirlwind into the sky. When the waters receded, and the mountains appeared again, and the sea went back into its own place, the son and daughter of Pund-jil ‘went back to earth and became the first of the true men and women who live in the world today’.5)Reed, A.W., ‘The Great Flood’, in Aboriginal Fables And Legendary Tales, Reed Books, Sydney, Australia, pp. 55-56, 1965.

One of the more striking Flood accounts, summarized here.

Australian Aboriginals relate legend of world-destroying flood was discovered by anthropologists among a remote Aboriginal tribe in Western Australia, before any contact with missionaries.

“It came about that the earliest-time children tormented and ill-treated the Winking Owl, Dumbi. Ngadja, the Supreme One, was inwardly grieved and felt deep sorrow for him. He instructed Gajara, ‘If you want to live, take your wife, your sons and your sons’ wives and get a double raft. Because of the Dumbi affair, I intend to drown everyone. I am about to send rain and a sea flood,’ he told them. ‘Put on the raft long-lasting foods that may be stored, foods such as gumi, banimba, and ngalindaja, all these ground foods.’

“So Gajara stored all these foods. He also gathered birds of the air such as the cuckoo, the mistletoe-eater, the rainbow bird, the helmeted friar bird and finches; these he took on the raft, and also a female kangaroo. Gajara gathered his sons as the crew, and his own wife and his sons’ wives together.

“Then Ngadja sent the rainclouds down, shutting the clouds in upon them. The sea-flood came in from the north-north-east and the people were closed in by the salt-water flood and the tidal waters of the sea. Ngadja whirled the flood waters and the earth opened, drowning and flattening them all. He finished them at Dumbey. Meanwhile, the flood carried all those who were on the raft with Gajara along on the current far away to Dulugun.

“At last, the floodwaters brought Gajara back in this direction. He sent some birds out from the raft, first the cuckoo. The cuckoo found the land and did not return to him. Gradually the waters were going down. Later on, the other birds returned to Gajara and he sent them out again the following day. The land was already drying the waters up and the living creatures found a home and food. They killed a kangaroo after landing, and Gajara’s wife, Galgalbiri, put it in the earth oven and cooked it with other foods. The smoke rose slowly until it reached through into the sky. Ngadja, the Supreme Being, could smell the steam and smoke rising from the female kangaroo as it was cooking and he was pleased.

“Ngadja, the Supreme Being, put the rainbow in the sky to keep the rain-clouds back. The rainbow protects us so that the rainfall does not rise too high. Our people understand the significance of it. When we see the rainbow we say, ‘There will not be any abnormally heavy rain.’.”6)For full version see: Coates, H., The Flood, Creation 4(3):9-12, 1981.  

Ancient Chinese

Early Jesuit scholars were the first Europeans to gain access to the Chinese ‘book of all knowledge’ from ancient times. This 4,320-volume collection told of the repercussions of mankind’s rebellion against the gods: “The Earth was shaken to its foundations. The sky sank lower towards the north. The sun, moon, and stars changed their motions. The Earth fell to pieces and the waters in its bosom rushed upwards with violence and overflowed the Earth.”7)Berlitz, C., The Lost Ship of Noah, W.H. Allen, London, UK, p. 126, 1987.

Another story, in the folklore of the Bahnars, a primitive tribe of Cochin, China, tells of how the rivers swelled “till the waters reached the sky, and all living beings perished except two, a brother and a sister, who were saved in a huge chest. They took with them into the chest a pair of every sort of animal …”.8)p. 82 Frazer, J.G., Folklore in the Old Testament: Studies in Comparative Religion, Legend and Law (Abridged Edition), Avenel Books, New York, NY, USA, p. 107, 1988.

Egypt

Flood stories from the continent of Africa are rare, but one from Egypt tells of an ancient creation god, Tem, who “was responsible for the primeval flood, which covered the entire earth and destroyed all of mankind except those in Tem’s boat”.9)Mercatante, A.S., Encyclopedia of World Mythology and Legend, Child & Associates Publishing, NSW, Australia, p. 613, 1988.

Peru

The Incas of Peru also had a tradition of a deluge. “They said that the water rose above the highest mountains in the world, so that all people and all created things perished. No living thing escaped except a man and a woman, who floated in a box on the face of the waters and so were saved.”10)pp. 105-106.  Frazer, J.G., Folklore in the Old Testament: Studies in Comparative Religion, Legend and Law (Abridged Edition), Avenel Books, New York, NY, USA, p. 107, 1988.

Scandinavia

The stories of the Teutonic tribes of Scandinavia are vivid and describe terrifying events. The imagery of these legends emphasizes the size of the cataclysm. One such tale portrays the chaos of the world when the mighty wolf Fenrir shook himself and “made the whole world tremble. The aged ash tree Yggdrasil [envisaged as the axis of the earth] was shaken from its roots to its topmost branches. Mountains crumbled or split from top to bottom … ”. Men “were driven from their hearths and the human race was swept from the surface of the earth. The earth itself was beginning to lose its shape. Already the stars were coming adrift from the sky and falling into the gaping void. … Flames spurted from fissures in the rocks; everywhere there was the hissing of steam. All living things, all plant life, were blotted out. … And now all the rivers, all the seas rose and overflowed. From every side waves lashed against waves. They swelled and boiled and slowly covered all things. The earth sank beneath the sea …”. Then slowly “the earth emerged from the waves. Mountains rose anew … . Men also reappeared. … Enclosed in the wood itself of the ash tree Yggdrasil … the ancestors of a future race of men had escaped death.”11)The Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology, Chancellor Press, London, UK, pp. 275-277, 1996.

Uncanny coherence to Noah’s account

There are at least 500 legends of a worldwide deluge.

Many of these show remarkable similarities, with many aspects similar to the details about Noah’s Flood in the Bible.

We are left with a few options. Perhaps all the peoples of these remote civilisations had different flood experiences that, by chance, had all these features in common, on which they based their stories. However, the more reasonable alternative is that these legends all find their root in the same one global Flood experience that Genesis records.

So why do sceptics reject the story today? The Bible says that people willingly close their minds about the Flood: “For this is hidden from them by their willing it, that the heavens were of old, and the earth out of the water, and through water, being held together by the word of God, through which the world that then was, being flooded by water, perished (2 Peter 3:5-6 ESV).

The Bible also proclaims that this world is being reserved for another cataclysm: “But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a rushing noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat. And the earth and the works in it will be burned up (2 Peter 3:10 ESV).

All too often we rest in the surety of yet another benevolent sunrise. We rely too smugly upon the delicate balance that makes life on our planet possible. The ancient prophecies and legends, corruptions though they are of the original true account, help to remind us of our vulnerability before God. We should humbly bow the knee and get in step with His purposes. They are the only purposes that really count.

Here is what I like to describe as: A BOTTOM LINE

Deluge or Flood’: “A world cataclysm during which the earth was inundated or submerged by water: a concept found in almost every mythology in the world. The exceptions are Egypt and Japan …”

Funk and Wagnall’s 1950 Dictionary of Folklore, Mythology and Legend

COMMON THEMES IN FLOOD ACCOUNTS:

There are parallel themes going through most of the accounts of the Great Flood. Here are some of them.

Cause12)http://www.conservapedia.com/Great_Flood#Cause

Many of the accounts say that the flood was caused by God or some equivalent being. In Genesis, it was Yahweh.13)Genesis 6:3 In the Gilgamesh Epic, it was the council of the gods.14)Noah’s Flood and the Gilgamesh Epic by Jonathan Sarfati, Creation, vol. 28 No. 4 pp.12-17 In the Bundaba (Australian aboriginal) flood story, it was Ngowungu, the Great Father.15)Australian Aboriginal Flood Stories, Creation Vol. 5 No. 1, pp. 6-9. The Greeks recorded it as being Zeus.16)Greek, in Flood Stories from Around the World by Mark Isaak.

Purpose17)http://www.conservapedia.com/Great_Flood#Purpose

When the cause of the flood is attributed to a god, the reason is frequently said to be for mankind’s wickedness. Genesis adds that “every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time”.18)Genesis 6:5 NIV The Miao account from China says, in verse, “These did not God’s will nor returned His affection. / But fought with each other defying the Godhead. / Their leaders shook fists in the face of the Mighty.”19)Genesis According to the Miao People, by Edgar A. Truax, Impact, April 1991 A Navajo account says that it was because of “their sins of adultery and constant quarreling”.20)Navajo (Four Corners area), in Flood Stories from Around the World by Mark Isaak

What saved the people21)http://www.conservapedia.com/Great_Flood#What_saved_the_people

People were generally saved either by floating out the flood, or fleeing to the top of a mountain. In the former case, the vessel took a variety of forms. A Hopi Indian story has them surviving in the hollow stems of giant reeds22)Hopi, in Flood Stories from Around the World by Mark Isaak. The Greek story has them surviving in a chest.23)Greek, in Flood Stories from Around the World by Mark Isaak. In Genesis, Noah was instructed by God to build an ark to dimensions and other specifications included in the account.

Who was saved?24)http://www.conservapedia.com/Great_Flood#Who_was_saved.3F

The survivors were often a single family. An Australian aboriginal account has Ngadgja, the Supreme One, telling Gajara to take his wife, his sons, and his sons’ wives.25)Aboriginal Flood Legend, by Howard Coates, Creation Vol. 4 No.3, pp.9-12 The Masai account from East Africa has Tumbainot taking his two wives, his six sons, and their wives.26)Masai (East Africa), in Flood Stories from Around the World by Mark Isaak. A Hawaiian story has Nuu taking his wife and three sons.27)Hawaii, in Flood Stories from Around the World by Mark Isaak. Noah took his wife, his three sons, and their wives.28)Genesis 7:13

Birds sent out29)http://www.conservapedia.com/Great_Flood#Birds_sent_out

Genesis describes Noah sending out birds to see if there was yet dry land.30)Genesis 8:6-12 Initially this was unsuccessful, but a subsequent attempt was successful when a dove didn’t return. In the Hopi account also, they unsuccessfully sent out birds to find land.31)Hopi, in Flood Stories from Around the World by Mark Isaak. An Australian aboriginal account has a cuckoo not returning because it found land.32)Aboriginal Flood Legend, by Howard Coates, Creation Vol. 4 No.3, pp.9-12 The Masai account has Tumbainot sending out a dove, which returned because it had no place to rest.33)Masai (East Africa), in Flood Stories from Around the World by Mark Isaak

A rainbow34)http://www.conservapedia.com/Great_Flood#A_rainbow

The Masai account has four rainbows signifying that God’s wrath was over.35)Masai (East Africa), in Flood Stories from Around the World by Mark Isaak A Hawaiian account has the god Kane leaving a rainbow as a perpetual sign of his forgiveness.36)Hawaii, in Flood Stories from Around the World by Mark Isaak. From an Australian aboriginal story comes this account: Ngadja, the Supreme Being, put the rainbow in the sky to keep the rain-clouds back. The rainbow lies bent across the sky; he ties up the clouds behind it and the rain does not come. The rainbow keeps the clouds back and protects us so that the rainfall does not rise too high. Our people understand the significance of it. When we see the rainbow we say, ‘There will not be any abnormally heavy rain.’37)Aboriginal Flood Legend, by Howard Coates, Creation Vol. 4 No.3, pp.9-12
Genesis says that the rainbow would be a reminder that God would never again destroy the world with a flood. Genesis 9:12-17 ESV

Other ancient references38)http://www.conservapedia.com/Great_Flood#Other_ancient_references

The Great Flood has left a variety of traditions in many cultures world-wide. In most of them, the stories involve a few survivors and a number of animals in a boat or on a raft; the search for dry land involving a bird; a landing on a mountain, and a sacrifice to the gods after the flood was over.

EUROPEAN TRADITIONS
Culture or people Details Name of Noah Name of mountain Number of survivors Animals involved
Greece Deucalion and Pyrrha were warned by Prometheus about the flood and told to build a chest; they survived when the chest landed on a high mountain.39)Apollodorus, The Library, book 1 Deucalion Mt. Parnassus Yes
ASIAN TRADITIONS
Culture or people Details Name of Noah Name of mountain Number of survivors Animals involved
Babylonia Epic of Gilgamesh; The god Ea warned Utnapishtim of the imminent destruction of the earth; the ark built was cube-shaped, and held his family, friends, and all animals Utnapishtim Mt. Nisir 8 Yes; a raven and dove were used to search for dry land as well
Assyria King Ashurbanipal, who lived in the seventh century B.C., recorded, “I have read intricate tablets inscribed with obscure Sumerian or Akkadian…inscriptions on stone from before the Flood.” Utnapishtim; possibly used the same Gilgamesh tales of Babylonia Mt. Nisir 8 Yes
Chaldean Xisuthrus was warned of a coming flood by the god Chronos, who ordered him to build a boat in which to carry family, friends, and two of every kind of animal.40)Eusebius, Chronicle, book 1 Xisuthrus 8 Yes; birds were used to find land.
China Hihking; The Chinese classic record details one family survived a great flood by gathering their sons and sons’ wives together in a large boat, whereupon they repopulated the earth afterwards. Fuhi 8 Yes
Sumeria Eridu Genesis: the god Enki warns Ziudsura to build a large boat due to the coming destruction of the earth. After a flood lasting seven days, Ziudsura sacrifices to the gods. Ziudsura translation lost translation lost
AUSTRALIAN TRADITIONS
Culture or people Details Name of Noah Name of mountain Number of survivors Animals involved
OCEANIC ISLANDERS TRADITIONS
Culture or people Details Name of Noah Name of mountain Number of survivors Animals involved
Hawaiian A man built a boat to escape a great flood. He landed his vessel on top of Mauna Kea on the Big Island. The man accidentally attributed the cause of his safety to the moon god, and made sacrifices to the wrong god. Kane, the actual creator god descended to the man from a rainbow telling him of his error.*41)http://www.enotes.com/wm-encyclopedia/nuu*42)“Nu’u” A Dictionary of World Mythology. Arthur Cotterell. Oxford University Press, 1997. Oxford Reference Online. Oxford University Press. 30 September 2010 http://www.oxfordreference.com/views/ENTRY.html?subview=Main&entry=t73.e525*43)http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n2/flood-legends*44)http://www.answers.com/topic/nu-u*45)https://www.amazon.com/Hawaiian-Mythology-Martha-Warren-Beckwith/dp/0559118627 Nu’u Mauna Kea Unknown Unknown
AFRICAN TRADITIONS
Culture or people Details Name of Noah Name of mountain Number of survivors Animals involved
NORTH AMERICAN TRADITIONS
Culture or people Details Name of Noah Name of mountain Number of survivors Animals involved
Chippewa A war between Nanabozho and the Great Serpent who lived at the bottom of Lake Superior; the serpent, being wounded in the fight, vowed to destroy the tribe by a flood. The tribe quickly built rafts, gathered their animals, and escaped to the highest mountains, which were quickly covered over except the one on which stood Nanabozho46)http://www.indians.org/welker/greatflo.htm Nanabozho unknown unknown Yes
Choctaw The Great Spirit destroyed a corrupt and wicked human race and all life on earth, except a prophet who went in vain to warn the people to repent or die. The prophet survived by building a raft of sassafras logs.47)http://mike-boucher.com/wordpress/?page_id=145 known only as the prophet. unknown unknown Yes; the bird which led him to land he named “Puchi Yushuba” (lost pigeon)
SOUTH AMERICAN TRADITIONS
Culture or people Details Name of Noah Name of mountain Number of survivors Animals involved
Tamanakis (Carib tribe, Orinoco River basin) A man and woman escaped to the highest peak after being warned of a flood. Afterward, the tossed coconuts behind them, which became the next race of man. Mt Tapanacu

A SECOND LOOK AT “THE FLOOD”

Genesis Flood account48)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology

Genesis provides the most detailed account of the global deluge, including specific dates, measurements, and even some key geological events during the flood. Consequently, flood geologists use it as a starting point for understanding the events of the deluge. Based on the Genesis account, flood geologists argue that the flood resulted from subterranean water erupting to the surface (“the springs of the great deep burst forth”.49)Genesis 7:11 NIV.), combined with 40 days and nights of rain. Although the rain stopped after 40 days, the flood waters continued to rise for 150 days, and lasted just over a year before Noah and the others on the boat were able to leave. During the flood, there was massive tectonic activity, including some land rising up and other land dropping, such that the waters ended up in newly deepened oceans. All the animals and birds (except those on the ark), and large numbers of sea creatures perished, and many of them were buried so quickly that they became fossils, accounting for the vast majority of fossils existing today.

Flood geologists base their belief in a relatively recent global deluge on several strands of evidence. While none of these strands alone is sufficient to prove that a global flood occurred, flood geologists argue that a global deluge is the most reasonable and parsimonious explanation for the evidence.

Sedimentary rock50)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#Sedimentary_rock

Sedimentary rocks are formed by sand and other sediments which settle out of suspension in water, minerals which dissolve in water (which sand cannot do).51)http://pearsonkt.com/summaryStreetOT/texts/Sci-National-Grade-4/iText/products/0-328-34278-5/unitc/ch11/331.html. and the hard parts of small aquatic organisms such as plankton, which accumulate on the bottom of a body of water and undergo lithification. Although only about 8% of the earth’s rocks are sedimentary, 75%-80% of the Earth’s land area is covered in sedimentary rock..52)http://www.icr.org/article/570/. Therefore, geologists point out, there is irrefutable evidence that at least 75% of the Earth’s land was once covered in water.

Sufficient water53)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#Sufficient_water

There is enough water on Earth today to cover the entire surface to a depth of 2.7 kilometres (1.7 miles), if the surface was levelled out..54)Noah’s Flood—what about all that water?, Chapter 4 of the Creation Answers Book, Dr. Don Batten (Ed.). Continents emerge because the average ocean depth is 3.7 km..55)http://www.mos.org/oceans/planet/features.html. Flood geologists argue that geological activity during and after the flood lowered the ocean basins, causing water to flow from the continents into the basins, and leaving dry land..56)Psalms 104:6-9 (NASB) “You covered it with the deep as with a garment; The waters were standing above the mountains. At Your rebuke they fled, At the sound of Your thunder they hurried away. The mountains rose; the valleys sank down To the place which You established for them. You set a boundary that they may not pass over, So that they will not return to cover the earth.”.

Fossils57)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#Fossils

Fossilization requires rapid burial in a sedimentary solution, and subsequent rapid lithification of the solution. Slow burial does not result in fossilization, because the remains decay prior to being fossilized. Therefore, every fossil was buried in rapidly deposited sedimentary material which subsequently turned to stone.

Fossil fuels58)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#Fossil_fuels

Fossil fuel formation requires the burial of enormous amounts of organic matter under a sedimentary solution, and the application of heat and pressure. Slow burial processes do not produce fossil fuels, because the organic matter decays prior to conversion into a fossil fuel. Therefore, all fossil fuels on earth were quickly buried under sedimentary material which subsequently turned to stone;

Similar processes have been observed in Spirit Lake following the eruption of Mount St. Helens in 1980.

Rock strata59)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#Rock_strata

Most sedimentary rocks are layered, forming sharply defined lines at varying depths. Were these formed over long periods, erosion would have softened these lines. The sharpness of the lines implies rapid deposition and lithification.

Pure sedimentary layers60)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#Pure_sedimentary_layers

If sedimentary layers were laid down over millennia, they would have experienced mixing. However, many rock strata are pure—for example, the St. Peter Sandstone, covering 500,000 sq miles of the United States, is 99.94% pure silica. While uniformitarian scientists state that it was deposited by the shore of a sea, they cannot explain how it remained so pure if it was laid out over a long period of time. However, the sorting processes of liquefaction, consistent with a global flood, can make such an explanation.

Submarine canyons61)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#Submarine_canyons

Canyons can be found under the sea at the end of many major world rivers, including the Congo, Amazon, Ganges, and Hudson. They extend for thousands of miles underwater, thousands of feet under the sea; they are as deep as the Grand Canyon in places, and although not well understood by the mainstream scientific community, they are generally understood to have developed when sea-levels were significantly lower than today. Flood geologists argue that as the continents divided and the flood subsided, these major rivers drained the new continents, and the water flowed into the new low-lying areas, which would fill to become seas, leaving the sediments to dry out of their liquefied state.

Land canyons62)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#Land_canyons

As explanation for great land canyons such as the Grand Canyon, flood geologists point to canyon formation events such as the catastrophic hot mud slides observed during the eruption of Mt. St. Helens. One particular hot mud slide at Mt. St. Helens carved a canyon 140 ft. deep and 17 miles long in a single day. Only a thin creek remains at the bottom of the canyon today, which would likely be interpreted as having carved the canyon “over millions of years,” if it were not known first-hand that the canyon was carved in a single day.

Ancient accounts of a navigable Atlantic63)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#Ancient_accounts_of_a_navigable_Atlantic

Plato’s Timaeus states:

“In those days the Atlantic was navigable; and there was an island situated in front of the straits which are by you called the Pillars of Heracles [Straight of Gibraltar] … and was the way to other islands, and from these you might pass to the whole of the opposite continent which surrounded the true ocean; for this sea which is within the Straits of Heracles is only a harbour, having a narrow entrance, but that other is a real sea, and the surrounding land may be most truly called a boundless continent.”.64)http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/timaeus.html.

Plate tectonics65)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#Plate_tectonics

A clear problem with a global flood is that of repopulation: after the flood, very few non-marine species would survive. In particular, most of those observed today could not possibly have survived – this includes all insects, the vast majority of birds (Some species of albatross may have survived), the vast majority of mammals, and possibly freshwater fish depending on the salinity of the floodwaters.

Flood geology models include a means for these species to survive, most typically via artificial assistance – an Ark, as described in Genesis.

An often-proposed explanation is that of continental drift – that the continents may once have been united in a single supercontinent, which broke into fragments and drifted into the formations seen today during the time between the start of repopulation and today. Continental drift in principle is nearly universally accepted by all geologists, with flood geology differing only in time: While conventional geology estimates the breakup of the supercontinent to have occurred over approximately sixty million years, flood geologists mostly claim that the process occurred during the flood year, whilst a few claim that it occurred at the time of Peleg.

Flood geologists propose several models which would explain how continental drift could proceed at the rapid pace required to allow the rearrangement of continents during or shortly after the flood, then slow to the currently observed rate. One of the best known of these is the runaway subduction model of Dr. John Baumgardner..66)http://www.globalflood.org/platetec/about.html.

Total destruction67)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#Total_destruction

Flood geologists argue that the scale of destruction of the Flood, especially if rapid plate tectonics was involved, would mean almost certain total destruction of the pre-Flood world, including any evidence of civilisations predating the Flood, along with the destruction of the Garden of Eden. After the Flood, and particularly after the Tower of Babel, new civilisations developed, that either survive to this day or that we find archaeological evidence of today.

Dating68)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#Dating

Flood geologists date the flood to around 2350 B.C., based on biblical chronology. They argue that archaeological dates which purport to show civilisations and artifacts being older than the Flood (see Criticisms) are incorrect because they are based on the presumption that none of these methods would be altered by the effects of a global flood in such a way as to render conclusions drawn from them invalid..69)One example is Carbon Dating which is calibrated according to known background levels of C14 in the atmosphere, but this calibration does not account for likely altered levels due to extensive volcanism during the Flood. See Carbon dating into the future (Creation Ministries International).. Christian apologetists state that the biblical flood would have occurred before the Egyptian pyramids were built and that the commonly cited Egyptian chronology is errant and built upon poor foundations..70)http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2503. Also, Christian apologists argue that ancient Sumerian history supports the flood account given in the Bible..71)http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a009.html In addition, ancient Sumerian literature speaks of a worldwide flood..72)http://home.comcast.net/~chris.s/sumer-faq.html#A1.6.

Creationist scientists also state that the chronology used to dispute a worldwide flood based on tree rings is invalid..73)http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=381..74)http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/docs/tree_ring.asp..75)http://www.biblicalchronologist.org/answers/c14_treerings.php..76)http://www.grisda.org/origins/21066.htm..77)http://www.creationresearch.org/crsq/articles/26/26_1a.html..78)http://www.creationresearch.org/crsq/abstracts/sum29_4.html.

Creationist Scientists Defense of Flood Geology79)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#Creationist_Scientists_Defense_of_Flood_Geology

Creationist scientists assert that there are multiple lines of evidence from the field of geology showing that flood geology is correct..80)http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/geology.asp..81)http://www.creationism.org/topbar/geology.htm..82)http://www.grisda.org/georpts/gr11.htm..83)http://www.nwcreation.net/geologylinks.html..84)http://globalflood.org/. Creationist scientists also state that there was enough water to cause a worldwide flood and various other objections to a worldwide flood are invalid..85)http://www.answersingenesis.org/Home/Area/AnswersBook/flood12.asp..86)http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/flood.asp.

History87)http://www.conservapedia.com/Flood_Geology#History

Until the rise of uniformitarian geology in the early 19th century, most geologists accepted the Noahic deluge as part of geology. But James Hutton proposed in 1795 that geology ought to be based on the processes that we see happening now, thereby automatically ruling the Flood out of consideration. During the 19th century a number of “scriptural geologists” held out against the rising acceptance of Hutton’s principles, but they fought a losing battle and interest in flood geology virtually died out by the end of the 19th century.

However, in the second half of the 20th century, interest was revived amongst people keen to show that the biblical account was correct, and a small but growing number of geologists are now studying this field again, although the vast majority of geologists still reject the idea of a global flood on Earth. At the same time, there has been a recent resurgence of catastrophism in geological interpretation..88)http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=print&ID=84..89)http://www.grisda.org/georpts/gr11.htm.

Interest in Flood Geology was stimulated by the 1961 publication of The Genesis Flood, by Henry Morris and John Whitcomb. Dr. Henry Morris had a number of arguments for geology supporting a worldwide flood..90)http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=view&ID=54..91)http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=articles&action=print&ID=84..92)http://www.icr.org/article/842/.

Now lets get back to the broader view of whether God uses weather to judge nations; consider the following passages:93)http://www.thebiblicalworldview.org/does-god-use-weather-as-judgme/

Example: 2.0 (a)

Job 37:9-16 NLT

9 The stormy wind comes from its chamber,
and the driving winds bring the cold.
10 God’s breath sends the ice,
freezing wide expanses of water.
11 He loads the clouds with moisture,
and they flash with his lightning.
12 The clouds churn about at his direction.
They do whatever he commands throughout the earth.
13 He makes these things happen either to punish people
or to show his unfailing love.
14 “Pay attention to this, Job.
Stop and consider the wonderful miracles of God!
15 Do you know how God controls the storm
and causes the lightning to flash from his clouds?
16 Do you understand how he moves the clouds
with wonderful perfection and skill?

The Hebrew word for “stormy wind” is cawphah and means a hurricane.

Example: 2.0 (b)

Job 37:9-16 ESV

9 From its chamber comes the whirlwind,
and cold from the scattering winds.
10 By the breath of God ice is given,
and the broad waters are frozen fast.
11 He loads the thick cloud with moisture;
the clouds scatter his lightning.
12 They turn around and around by his guidance,
to accomplish all that he commands them
on the face of the habitable world.
13 Whether for correction or for his land
or for love, he causes it to happen.
14 “Hear this, O Job;
stop and consider the wondrous works of God.
15 Do you know how God lays his command upon them
and causes the lightning of his cloud to shine?
16 Do you know the balancings of the clouds,
the wondrous works of him who is perfect in knowledge,


Example: 3.0 (a)

Amos 3:6-7 NLT

6 When the ram’s horn blows a warning,
shouldn’t the people be alarmed?
Does disaster come to a city
unless the Lord has planned it?
7 Indeed, the Sovereign Lord never does anything
until he reveals his plans to his servants the prophets.

Example: 3.0 (b)

Amos 3:6-7 ESV

6 Is a trumpet blown in a city,
and the people are not afraid?
Does disaster come to a city,
unless the Lord has done it?
7 “For the Lord God does nothing
without revealing his secret
to his servants the prophets.


Example: 4.0 (a)

Amos 3:10-11 NLT

10 “My people have forgotten how to do right,”
says the Lord.
“Their fortresses are filled with wealth
taken by theft and violence.
11 Therefore,” says the Sovereign Lord,
an enemy is coming!
He will surround them and shatter their defenses.
Then he will plunder all their fortresses.

Example: 4.0 (b)

Amos 3:10-11 ESV

10 “They do not know how to do right,” declares the Lord,
“those who store up violence and robbery in their strongholds.”
11 Therefore thus says the Lord God:

“An adversary shall surround the land
and bring down your defenses from you,
and your strongholds shall be plundered.”

geggeg2ic-150sqInsight: Clearly Amos in speaking to the nation of Israel and unapologetically proclaims that God destroys cities of wicked nations which is described as “They do not know how to do right,” the abandonment of Gods absolutes will always attract Gods attention and become the catalyst which ushers Gods hand of Judgments. These Judgments come in various manners and intensities depending on the willingness of an individual or a nation to come around to Gods perspective. ie. “doing what is right in the sight of God creator of Heaven and Earth”.


Example: 5.0 (a)

Amos 4:6-12 NLT

6 “I brought hunger to every city
and famine to every town.
But still you would not return to me,”
says the Lord.
7 “I kept the rain from falling
when your crops needed it the most.
I sent rain on one town
but withheld it from another.
Rain fell on one field,
while another field withered away.
8 People staggered from town to town looking for water,
but there was never enough.
But still you would not return to me,”
says the Lord.
9 “I struck your farms and vineyards with blight and mildew.
Locusts devoured all your fig and olive trees.
But still you would not return to me,”
says the Lord.
10 “I sent plagues on you
like the plagues I sent on Egypt long ago.
I killed your young men in war
and led all your horses away.
The stench of death filled the air!
But still you would not return to me,”
says the Lord.
11 “I destroyed some of your cities,
as I destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.
Those of you who survived
were like charred sticks pulled from a fire.
But still you would not return to me,”
says the Lord.
12 “Therefore, I will bring upon you all the disasters I have announced.
Prepare to meet your God in judgment, you people of Israel!”

Example: 5.0 (b)

Amos 4:6-12 ESV

Israel Has Not Returned to the Lord

6 “I gave you cleanness of teeth in all your cities,
and lack of bread in all your places,
yet you did not return to me,”
declares the Lord.
7 “I also withheld the rain from you
when there were yet three months to the harvest;
I would send rain on one city,
and send no rain on another city;
one field would have rain,
and the field on which it did not rain would wither;
8 so two or three cities would wander to another city
to drink water, and would not be satisfied;
yet you did not return to me,”
declares the Lord.
9 “I struck you with blight and mildew;
your many gardens and your vineyards,
your fig trees and your olive trees the locust devoured;
yet you did not return to me,”
declares the Lord.
10 “I sent among you a pestilence after the manner of Egypt;
I killed your young men with the sword,
and carried away your horses,
and I made the stench of your camp go up into your nostrils;
yet you did not return to me,”
declares the Lord.
11 “I overthrew some of you,
as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah,
and you were as a brand plucked out of the burning;
yet you did not return to me,”
declares the Lord.
12 “Therefore thus I will do to you, O Israel;
because I will do this to you,
prepare to meet your God, O Israel!”


geggeg2ic-150sqClearly in this passage above the purpose of divine judgment is to bring repentance to nations and people. When God sent the prophet Jonah to preach repentance to Nineveh, he did not tell Jonah to placate94)http://www.dictionary.com/browse/placate Nineveh’s sins, rather proclaim with no doubt that if they did not repent, God would destroy the nation. Fortunately Ninevah listened and repented therefore God stayed his judgment. However, about forty years later, suffering from a short memory they went back to loving their sin and consequently God of Heaven and Earth destroyed the city and all that dwelt within it.

Consider this.

Psalm 9:16-17 ESV

16 The Lord has made himself known; he has executed judgment;
the wicked are snared in the work of their own hands. Higgaion. Selah
17 The wicked shall return to Sheol,
all the nations that forget God.

Thankfully we do not need to be a rocket scientist to understand what “that forget God” means95)http://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/shakeach.html

simply it is to pay Him no mind or ignore Him as being irrelevant. 

This is surely indicative of many nations and particularly among the leaderships in government, business’s and people’s in general.

May I suggest a wise response is: With honesty ask yourself the question are you one of the “people” and what will you do about changing the course that you’ve found yourself on.

 

geggeg2ic-150sqCapping this off then. There are very clear examples of judgments of God to Nations and individual found in the Bible and within these records there is clearly seen a record of God’s attempts to bring the offenders to their senses before the awfulness of the consequences arrive due to conduct the is “not right” before God. Surely no one wants to receive the reward that God has clearly stated will come if an individual or nation becomes recalcitrant and stubborn in heart by refusing to comply to the  Just and Righteous God who is the creator of Heaven and Earth whose son is Jesus the Christ.

What I want to leave clearly in your mind, heart and spirit this “The Choices is yours Now”

Also the consequences will also be yours now!

And secondly when you find yourself standing at the Great White Throne of Judgement and there is no one you can shift the blame to, Gods just Judgement of the the Lake of Fire will be your eternal consequence. for all who stand before God with a “Sin Debt”

What must we do to be saved the apostle peter was asked?

Acts 2:37-41 TLB

37 These words of Peter’s moved them deeply, and they said to him and to the other apostles, “Brothers, what should we do?”

38 And Peter replied, “Each one of you must turn from sin, return to God, and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; then you also shall receive this gift, the Holy Spirit. 39 For Christ promised him to each one of you who has been called by the Lord our God, and to your children and even to those in distant lands!”

40 Then Peter preached a long sermon, telling about Jesus and strongly urging all his listeners to save themselves from the evils of their nation. 41 And those who believed Peter were baptized—about three thousand in all!

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16 Nov. Bishop Brian Tamaki blames gays, murderers and sinners for earthquakes

Truth and Lies feature

Above watch edited clip: The NZ Herald Article interprets Tamaki’s comments by implication of his commentary.
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In the NZ Herald article Reverend Helen Jacobi of Auckland church St Matthew-in-the-City said

“If that was the case, if you followed that to its logical conclusion, a baby dying of cancer would be somehow sinful, and that’s ridiculous. It’s just completely illogical.”

In the NZ Herald article Prime Minister Key said

Prime Minister Key said this afternoon that Tamaki’s comments were “ridiculous”.


“I mean, give me a break,” Key told Radiolive.

“Look, you always get people coming out with these stupid statements.

“The facts of life are New Zealand is a seismically prone country, with a number of very well identified fault lines.

“We’ve been a bit unlucky I think, clearly those plates are moving around a bit.

“It’s nothing to do with people’s sexuality. I mean, it’s just madness.”


geggeg2ic-150sqThis I would say to Rev. Helen; what an illogical rebuttal you put forward, In my opinion it appears your’e speaking from emotive thought processes. The Word of God Speaks for its self ! And that even when it doesn’t fit our preferences it is what it is.

Clearly the Word of God reveals clear consequences for entrenched sin within societies and records Gods dealings and judgements if his warnings go unheeded. This theme runs from the Book of Genesis to the Book of Revelations and as a minister I feel you should know this to be a sound biblical fact.

God is not in the Game of “Political Correctness” and God clearly has no problem naming what is Sin and confronting Individuals and Nations when God deems it necessary; nor is He apologetic in doing so, as God’s primary focus is on building our character into the likeness of Jesus rather than pampering to our desires for comfort which give us a warm feeling and begins to makes us all feel like singing “Kumbaya”.

The Old and New Testament clearly defines certain actions as Sins and some abominations before the Lord and that they have consequences to firstly the individuals and to a nation which embraces such lifestyles as acceptable social codes for conduct.

As ministers we are only a messenger not the writer of the message! Our job is to proclaim/declare/preach/teach the message the way it was written by “God” creator of Heaven and Earth whose son is Jesus.

It is never to be our concern that the hearers may not find the message (Gods Word) palatable or appreciated. Our responsibility is to just tell it the way God has said it, if the hearers do not like the message then they are free to take it up with the author “God” if they dare, Im sure their success at getting God to change his mind about what is sin and what is not; has the same odds as that of you and I seeing the day elephants roost in trees.

Moving on to the comments of Prime Minster Keys:

geggeg2ic-150sqI would suggest Prime Minister Key’s is possibly not terribly qualified or commissioned to be speaking on the behalf of “God” or qualified to expound on how God deals with individuals and society. As I would suggest Prime Minister Key’s command of and knowledge of the “Word of God” is skin deep at best. So Prime Minister Key’s critique of the Ps. Tamaki’s remarks from a pulpit really sit in left field and well out of Prime Minister Key’s areas of expertise.

Let me put it this way; If I need the opinion of a specialist for brain damage issues I do not go to a urologist, If I need an opinion on the God of the Bible I do not go to the Devil for it.

So when a preacher of Gods word casts opinions; I not going to go to the prime minister of NZ, Im going to go to the “Word of God” and see what God has said about it!

And this I would suggest all the readers do; and prior to doing so ask God to reveal the truth of His Word and at the same time be willing to (see and hear) what God has to say about Sin and its effects on a nation or individuals.

This rebuttal I’ve made is not to be construed as myself saying 100% that the happenings of earthquakes in the country of NZ in the last couple of years are connected to an action God is taking against New Zealand for the Nations actions of embracing that which God has clearly said is sin and also the formalization of spiritism into the national ethos in its society as being an essential intrinsic part of the Nations culture.

However I would not rule out the fact that God maybe be making a move to bring chastisement to the Nation of NZ concerning these very issues and along with chastisement a call to the nation to turn back to God and His ways.

In fact it could well be that we are seeing in NZ the birth pangs for a Nation to turn to God once again and allow God to set the standard of Conduct according to His absolutes within the Word of God.

I would suggest a prudent position would be to be very careful that as individuals and a Nation we are not rejecting messengers from God who are being sent to sound the alarm of warning and calling for change towards Gods boundaries as individuals and as Nation.

Rev. Gary (New Zealander by Birth)

HERE A QUALIFIED BIBLICAL OPINION WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION

How are we affected by sin?1)https://carm.org/questions/about-doctrine/how-are-we-affected-sin

There are different schools of thought concerning the extent to which sin has affected us. Without a doubt, sin brings death (Rom. 6:23). Death is not a natural part of God’s creation. When sin entered the world, death came with it (Rom. 5:12). But, to what extent and how deeply are we affected by sin? The Reformed theologians hold to the doctrine of total depravity. This is the teaching that sin has affected all of what the person is in body, soul, emotions, mind, and spirit. Furthermore, the Reformed position states that the effect of sin on our persons makes unbelievers incapable of choosing God on their own since sin has left us dead, blind (Eph. 2:3), and incapable of understanding spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14).

In contrast, the Arminian position states that sin has affected all of what we are, but that it has not incapacitated the free-will choices of the unbeliever. The Arminian position states that the unbeliever is still capable of choosing or rejecting God on his own — all he needs is some prompting from the Holy Spirit.

Nevertheless, the extent of the effect of sin upon us will continue to be debated by Christian theologians since the Scripture does not explicitly declare its depth.

Sin has also affected us by its influence on the world.  All we need to do is look around us to see that we grow old, get sick, and die. In other words, the world is decaying and we first notice it in our own bodies.  We also see the effect of sin on societies that war against each other. There is mayhem, killing, theft, adulteries, murders, lying, etc.  Our jails are filled with those who are ruled by sin — which is rebellion against God’s truth.

Also, sin has affected the world in that there are floods, earthquakes, storms, etc.  These are the result of an imperfect world with sin running through it.  When Adam fell, the world was affected by his fall.  Adam represented all of the created order since he was given dominion over it by God.  Therefore, when Adam rebelled he took the world with him in his fall and as the Scripture says, it awaits its own deliverance:

20For the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now,

Sin will be remedied finally only by the return of Christ who will then destroy sin and death completely. Until that day, we war against the sinfulness of our fleshly bodies as well as the effects of it upon creation.

Here is the Raw Word of God Scripture Read this and be courageous enough to ask God to reveal the truth of what hes saying within these verses!

Leviticus 18: 1-30 NIV (dynamic translation)

Unlawful Sexual Relations

1 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘I am the Lord your God. 3 You must not do as they do in Egypt, where you used to live, and you must not do as they do in the land of Canaan, where I am bringing you. Do not follow their practices. 4 You must obey my laws and be careful to follow my decrees. I am the Lord your God. 5 Keep my decrees and laws, for the person who obeys them will live by them. I am the Lord.

6 “‘No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the Lord.

7 “‘Do not dishonor your father by having sexual relations with your mother. She is your mother; do not have relations with her.

8 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s wife; that would dishonor your father.

9 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere.

10 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter; that would dishonor you.

11 “‘Do not have sexual relations with the daughter of your father’s wife, born to your father; she is your sister.

12 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s sister; she is your father’s close relative.

13 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your mother’s sister, because she is your mother’s close relative.

14 “‘Do not dishonor your father’s brother by approaching his wife to have sexual relations; she is your aunt.

15 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your son’s wife; do not have relations with her.

16 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your brother’s wife; that would dishonor your brother.

17 “‘Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do not have sexual relations with either her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.

18 “‘Do not take your wife’s sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.

19 “‘Do not approach a woman to have sexual relations during the uncleanness of her monthly period.

20 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your neighbor’s wife and defile yourself with her.

21 “‘Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord.

22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

23 “‘Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.

24 “‘Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. 25 Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. 26 But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the foreigners residing among you must not do any of these detestable things, 27 for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. 28 And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you.

29 “‘Everyone who does any of these detestable things—such persons must be cut off from their people. 30 Keep my requirements and do not follow any of the detestable customs that were practiced before you came and do not defile yourselves with them. I am the Lord your God.’”

Leviticus 18:1-30 ESV (word for word translation)

Unlawful Sexual Relations

1 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 2 “Speak to the people of Israel and say to them, I am the Lord your God. 3 You shall not do as they do in the land of Egypt, where you lived, and you shall not do as they do in the land of Canaan, to which I am bringing you. You shall not walk in their statutes. 4 You shall follow my rules and keep my statutes and walk in them. I am the Lord your God. 5 You shall therefore keep my statutes and my rules; if a person does them, he shall live by them: I am the Lord.

6 “None of you shall approach any one of his close relatives to uncover nakedness. I am the Lord. 7 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father, which is the nakedness of your mother; she is your mother, you shall not uncover her nakedness. 8 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s wife; it is your father’s nakedness. 9 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your sister, your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether brought up in the family or in another home. 10 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your son’s daughter or of your daughter’s daughter, for their nakedness is your own nakedness. 11 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s wife’s daughter, brought up in your father’s family, since she is your sister. 12 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s sister; she is your father’s relative. 13 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your mother’s sister, for she is your mother’s relative. 14 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your father’s brother, that is, you shall not approach his wife; she is your aunt. 15 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your daughter-in-law; she is your son’s wife, you shall not uncover her nakedness. 16 You shall not uncover the nakedness of your brother’s wife; it is your brother’s nakedness. 17 You shall not uncover the nakedness of a woman and of her daughter, and you shall not take her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter to uncover her nakedness; they are relatives; it is depravity. 18 And you shall not take a woman as a rival wife to her sister, uncovering her nakedness while her sister is still alive.

19 “You shall not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness while she is in her menstrual uncleanness. 20 And you shall not lie sexually with your neighbor’s wife and so make yourself unclean with her. 21 You shall not give any of your children to offer them to Molech, and so profane the name of your God: I am the Lord. 22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. 23 And you shall not lie with any animal and so make yourself unclean with it, neither shall any woman give herself to an animal to lie with it: it is perversion.

24 “Do not make yourselves unclean by any of these things, for by all these the nations I am driving out before you have become unclean, 25 and the land became unclean, so that I punished its iniquity, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. 26 But you shall keep my statutes and my rules and do none of these abominations, either the native or the stranger who sojourns among you 27 (for the people of the land, who were before you, did all of these abominations, so that the land became unclean), 28 lest the land vomit you out when you make it unclean, as it vomited out the nation that was before you. 29 For everyone who does any of these abominations, the persons who do them shall be cut off from among their people. 30 So keep my charge never to practice any of these abominable customs that were practiced before you, and never to make yourselves unclean by them: I am the Lord your God.”


Leviticus 26:1-46 NIV 

Reward for Obedience

1 “‘Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the Lord your God.

“‘Observe my Sabbaths and have reverence for my sanctuary. I am the Lord.

“‘If you follow my decrees and are careful to obey my commands, I will send you rain in its season, and the ground will yield its crops and the trees their fruit. Your threshing will continue until grape harvest and the grape harvest will continue until planting, and you will eat all the food you want and live in safety in your land.

“‘I will grant peace in the land, and you will lie down and no one will make you afraid. I will remove wild beasts from the land, and the sword will not pass through your country. You will pursue your enemies, and they will fall by the sword before you. Five of you will chase a hundred, and a hundred of you will chase ten thousand, and your enemies will fall by the sword before you.

“‘I will look on you with favor and make you fruitful and increase your numbers, and I will keep my covenant with you. 10 You will still be eating last year’s harvest when you will have to move it out to make room for the new. 11 I will put my dwelling place among you, and I will not abhor you. 12 I will walk among you and be your God, and you will be my people. 13 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egyptso that you would no longer be slaves to the Egyptians; I broke the bars of your yoke and enabled you to walk with heads held high.

Punishment for Disobedience

14 “‘But if you will not listen to me and carry out all these commands,15 and if you reject my decrees and abhor my laws and fail to carry out all my commands and so violate my covenant, 16 then I will do this to you: I will bring on you sudden terror, wasting diseases and fever that will destroy your sight and sap your strength. You will plant seed in vain, because your enemies will eat it. 17 I will set my face against you so that you will be defeated by your enemies; those who hate you will rule over you, and you will flee even when no one is pursuing you.

18 “‘If after all this you will not listen to me, I will punish you for your sins seven times over. 19 I will break down your stubborn pride and make the sky above you like iron and the ground beneath you like bronze. 20 Your strength will be spent in vain, because your soil will not yield its crops, nor will the trees of your land yield their fruit.

21 “‘If you remain hostile toward me and refuse to listen to me, I will multiply your afflictions seven times over, as your sins deserve. 22 I will send wild animals against you, and they will rob you of your children, destroy your cattle and make you so few in number that your roads will be deserted.

23 “‘If in spite of these things you do not accept my correction but continue to be hostile toward me, 24 I myself will be hostile toward you and will afflict you for your sins seven times over. 25 And I will bring the sword on you to avenge the breaking of the covenant. When you withdraw into your cities, I will send a plague among you, and you will be given into enemy hands. 26 When I cut off your supply of bread, ten women will be able to bake your bread in one oven, and they will dole out the bread by weight. You will eat, but you will not be satisfied.

27 “‘If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me, 28 then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over. 29 You will eatthe flesh of your sons and the flesh of your daughters. 30 I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars and pile your dead bodies on the lifeless forms of your idols, and I will abhor you. 31 I will turn your cities into ruins and lay waste your sanctuaries, and I will take no delight in the pleasing aroma of your offerings. 32 I myself will lay waste the land, so that your enemies who live there will be appalled. 33 I will scatter you among the nations and will draw out my sword and pursue you. Your land will be laid waste, and your cities will lie in ruins. 34 Then the land will enjoy its sabbath years all the time that it lies desolate and you are in the country of your enemies; then the land will rest and enjoy its sabbaths. 35 All the time that it lies desolate, the land will have the rest it did not have during the sabbaths you lived in it.

36 “‘As for those of you who are left, I will make their hearts so fearful in the lands of their enemies that the sound of a windblown leaf will put them to flight. They will run as though fleeing from the sword, and they will fall, even though no one is pursuing them. 37 They will stumble over one another as though fleeing from the sword, even though no one is pursuing them. So you will not be able to stand before your enemies. 38 You will perish among the nations; the land of your enemies will devour you. 39 Those of you who are left will waste away in the lands of their enemies because of their sins; also because of their ancestors’sins they will waste away.

40 “‘But if they will confess their sins and the sins of their ancestors—their unfaithfulness and their hostility toward me, 41 which made me hostile toward them so that I sent them into the land of their enemies—then when their uncircumcised hearts are humbled and they pay for their sin, 42 I will remember my covenant with Jacob and my covenant with Isaac and my covenant with Abraham, and I will remember the land. 43 For the land will be deserted by them and will enjoy its sabbaths while it lies desolate without them. They will pay for their sins because they rejected my laws and abhorred my decrees. 44 Yet in spite of this, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not reject them or abhor them so as to destroy them completely, breaking my covenant with them. I am the Lord their God. 45 But for their sake I will remember the covenant with their ancestors whom I brought out of Egypt in the sight of the nations to be their God. I am the Lord.’”

46 These are the decrees, the laws and the regulations that the Lordestablished at Mount Sinai between himself and the Israelites through Moses.

Leviticus 26:1-46 ESV

Blessings for Obedience

1 “You shall not make idols for yourselves or erect an image or pillar, and you shall not set up a figured stone in your land to bow down to it, for I am the Lord your God. 2 You shall keep my Sabbaths and reverence my sanctuary: I am the Lord.

3 “If you walk in my statutes and observe my commandments and do them, 4 then I will give you your rains in their season, and the land shall yield its increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit. 5 Your threshing shall last to the time of the grape harvest, and the grape harvest shall last to the time for sowing. And you shall eat your bread to the full and dwell in your land securely. 6 I will give peace in the land, and you shall lie down, and none shall make you afraid. And I will remove harmful beasts from the land, and the sword shall not go through your land. 7 You shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword. 8 Five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall chase ten thousand, and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword. 9 I will turn to you and make you fruitful and multiply you and will confirm my covenant with you. 10 You shall eat old store long kept, and you shall clear out the old to make way for the new. 11 I will make my dwelling among you, and my soul shall not abhor you. 12 And I will walk among you and will be your God, and you shall be my people. 13 I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that you should not be their slaves. And I have broken the bars of your yoke and made you walk erect.

Punishment for Disobedience

14 “But if you will not listen to me and will not do all these commandments, 15 if you spurn my statutes, and if your soul abhors my rules, so that you will not do all my commandments, but break my covenant, 16 then I will do this to you: I will visit you with panic, with wasting disease and fever that consume the eyes and make the heart ache. And you shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it. 17 I will set my face against you, and you shall be struck down before your enemies. Those who hate you shall rule over you, and you shall flee when none pursues you. 18 And if in spite of this you will not listen to me, then I will discipline you again sevenfold for your sins, 19 and I will break the pride of your power, and I will make your heavens like iron and your earth like bronze. 20 And your strength shall be spent in vain, for your land shall not yield its increase, and the trees of the land shall not yield their fruit.

21 “Then if you walk contrary to me and will not listen to me, I will continue striking you, sevenfold for your sins. 22 And I will let loose the wild beasts against you, which shall bereave you of your children and destroy your livestock and make you few in number, so that your roads shall be deserted.

23 “And if by this discipline you are not turned to me but walk contrary to me, 24 then I also will walk contrary to you, and I myself will strike you sevenfold for your sins. 25 And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall execute vengeance for the covenant. And if you gather within your cities, I will send pestilence among you, and you shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy. 26 When I break your supply of bread, ten women shall bake your bread in a single oven and shall dole out your bread again by weight, and you shall eat and not be satisfied.

27 “But if in spite of this you will not listen to me, but walk contrary to me, 28 then I will walk contrary to you in fury, and I myself will discipline you sevenfold for your sins. 29 You shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters. 30 And I will destroy your high places and cut down your incense altars and cast your dead bodies upon the dead bodies of your idols, and my soul will abhor you. 31 And I will lay your cities waste and will make your sanctuaries desolate, and I will not smell your pleasing aromas. 32 And I myself will devastate the land, so that your enemies who settle in it shall be appalled at it. 33 And I will scatter you among the nations, and I will unsheathe the sword after you, and your land shall be a desolation, and your cities shall be a waste.

34 “Then the land shall enjoy its Sabbaths as long as it lies desolate, while you are in your enemies’ land; then the land shall rest, and enjoy its Sabbaths. 35 As long as it lies desolate it shall have rest, the rest that it did not have on your Sabbaths when you were dwelling in it. 36 And as for those of you who are left, I will send faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies. The sound of a driven leaf shall put them to flight, and they shall flee as one flees from the sword, and they shall fall when none pursues. 37 They shall stumble over one another, as if to escape a sword, though none pursues. And you shall have no power to stand before your enemies. 38 And you shall perish among the nations, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up. 39 And those of you who are left shall rot away in your enemies’ lands because of their iniquity, and also because of the iniquities of their fathers they shall rot away like them.

40 “But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers in their treachery that they committed against me, and also in walking contrary to me, 41 so that I walked contrary to them and brought them into the land of their enemies—if then their uncircumcised heart is humbled and they make amends for their iniquity, 42 then I will remember my covenant with Jacob, and I will remember my covenant with Isaac and my covenant with Abraham, and I will remember the land. 43 But the land shall be abandoned by them and enjoy its Sabbaths while it lies desolate without them, and they shall make amends for their iniquity, because they spurned my rules and their soul abhorred my statutes. 44 Yet for all that, when they are in the land of their enemies, I will not spurn them, neither will I abhor them so as to destroy them utterly and break my covenant with them, for I am the Lord their God. 45 But I will for their sake remember the covenant with their forefathers, whom I brought out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the nations, that I might be their God: I am the Lord.”

46 These are the statutes and rules and laws that the Lord made between himself and the people of Israel through Moses on Mount Sinai.


Genesis 3:1-24 ESV

The Fall

Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the Lord God had made.

He said to the woman, “Did God actually say, ‘You shall not eat of any tree in the garden’?” And the woman said to the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden, but God said, ‘You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.’” But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.” So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate. Then the eyes of both were opened, and they knew that they were naked. And they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves loincloths.

And they heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. But the Lord God called to the man and said to him, “Where are you?” 10 And he said, “I heard the sound of you in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked, and I hid myself.” 11 He said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?” 12 The man said, “The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me fruit of the tree, and I ate.” 13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this that you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

14 The Lord God said to the serpent,

“Because you have done this,
    cursed are you above all livestock
    and above all beasts of the field;
on your belly you shall go,
    and dust you shall eat
    all the days of your life.
15 I will put enmity between you and the woman,
    and between your offspring and her offspring;
he shall bruise your head,
    and you shall bruise his heel.”

16 To the woman he said,

“I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing;
    in pain you shall bring forth children.
Your desire shall be contrary to your husband,
    but he shall rule over you.”

17 And to Adam he said,

“Because you have listened to the voice of your wife
    and have eaten of the tree
of which I commanded you,
    ‘You shall not eat of it,’
cursed is the ground because of you;
    in pain you shall eat of it all the days of your life;
18 thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you;
    and you shall eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your face
    you shall eat bread,
till you return to the ground,
    for out of it you were taken;
for you are dust,
    and to dust you shall return.”

20 The man called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living. 21 And the Lord God made for Adam and for his wife garments of skins and clothed them.

22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—” 23 therefore the Lord God sent him out from the garden of Eden to work the ground from which he was taken. 24 He drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim and a flaming sword that turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life.

Genesis 4: 1-12 ESV

Cain and Abel

1 Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, saying, “I have gotten a man with the help of the Lord.” And again, she bore his brother Abel. Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a worker of the ground. In the course of time Cain brought to the Lordan offering of the fruit of the ground, and Abel also brought of the firstborn of his flock and of their fat portions. And the Lord had regard for Abel and his offering, but for Cain and his offering he had no regard. So Cain was very angry, and his face fell. The Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen? If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door. Its desire is contrary to you, but you must rule over it.”

Cain spoke to Abel his brother. And when they were in the field, Cain rose up against his brother Abel and killed him. Then the Lord said to Cain, “Where is Abel your brother?” He said, “I do not know; am I my brother’s keeper?” 10 And the Lord said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood is crying to me from the ground. 11 And now you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it shall no longer yield to you its strength.

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Upcoming Jewish Holidays Begins Period of Cataclysmic Events for Israel


You don’t need prophetic vision to know that the world is on the verge of a new period heralding in global changes unlike any ever seen before. The signs are obvious and the pieces are all in place. With the Jewish holiday’s fast approaching, God’s plan for change and redemption is unfolding before our very eyes with grave implications for the nation of Israel.

The Jewish New Year, Rosh Hashana, will begin on the evening of September 13 and end after sunset on September 15. According to Jewish tradition, Rosh Hashana is the day that God begins the process of judging the entire world.

This year’s Rosh Hashana is especially unique in that it will signal the end of the Shemittah year, the Sabbatical year which occurs in a seven year cycle. According to the Talmud, the written text explaining the oral Torah, the Messiah will come in the year following the Shemittah year.

As the second and final day of the holiday of Rosh Hashana ends on September 15, the 70th United Nations General Assembly will commence. The issue of the creation of a Palestinian state is expected to be decided by world representatives during the General Assembly. While not having yet happened, the upcoming session is already fraught with tension as it is unclear whether the US will continue to use its veto to prevent the Palestinians from unilaterally declaring a state.

Conflict over the Holy Land is prophesied to be part of the process of redemption. In Zechariah 12:6, the end times are described: “On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a flame that sets a woodpile ablaze or like a burning torch among sheaves of grain. They will burn up all the neighboring nations right and left, while the people living in Jerusalem remain secure.” In Amos 9:15, we are told that once the Jews are re-established in their land, “they will not again be rooted out from their land.”

After the Jewish holiday of Rosh Hashana is an interim period referred to as the Ten Days of Awe. It is during this period, on September 17, that the US Congress will vote on whether to reject or accept the nuclear deal negotiated by US President Barack Obama with Iran over their nuclear program.

Religious leaders have characterized the Iran deal as a cataclysmic and fiery conflict as part of the apocalyptic war of Gog and Magog. In Ezekiel, chapters 38 and 39, this was is described as involving several nations, none of whom border Israel. However Persia (Iran) is specifically mentioned as a main actor of the war.

It should be remembered that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gave his fateful address to Congress protesting the Iranian deal on March 3, the day before the Jewish holiday of Purim. Purim celebrates the Jewish victory over Haman, an officer in the Persian court, known today as Iran. Jewish holidays indeed play a significant role in the process of heavenly warning to the nations.


Pope Francis praying at the Western Wall in Jerusalem. (Photo: @MickyRosenfeld/ Twitter)

Concluding the Days of Awe is the holiday of Yom Kippur, known as the Day of Atonement on which God seals his judgments. Yom Kippur is the holiest day of the year and falls on September 23.

Oddly enough, September 23, Yom Kippur, is the day on which Obama has chosen to host Pope Francis at the White House on his first visit to the United States.

Pope Francis, in his role as leader of the Catholic world, has chosen to involve himself in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, recently recognizing the “State of Palestine.”

The weeklong Jewish Holiday of Sukkot, the Feast of Tabernacles, begins September 28, also the date for the last of the four blood moons in a special tetrad cycle.

Previous lunar tetrad cycles have coincided with important historical events that impacted the nation and State of Israel.

For example, four blood moons followed the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948. In 1967, before the Six Day War in which a divided Jerusalem was liberated and united by Israel, there was one blood moon with three following.

The upcoming blood moon will be clearly visible from Jerusalem and a similar pattern of eclipses happened just before and just after the destruction of the Jewish Temple by the Romans in 70 AD.

August 23, 2015 | By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz | Source: breakingisraelnews.com "Upcoming Jewish Holidays Begins Period of Cataclysmic Events for Israel"
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1929 Preacher Prophesies Judgment on America

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“Civilization and society rest on morals. Morals rest on religion. Religion rests on the Bible and faith in God and Jesus Christ.”

Those were the words of Billy Sunday, who was a famous professional baseball player in the 1880s before he accepted God’s call as an evangelist.

Sunday was just as influential in the church world as he was in the sports world, and we would do well to remember his words today. Indeed, morals rest on religion and religion rests on Bible and faith in God and Jesus Christ.

But civilization and society at large are rejecting morals, religion and Christ.Sunday saw an epidemic of immorality back in 1929 that lit a fire under him and anyone who would listen to his theatrical preaching.

In a YouTube video called “Billy Sunday Burns Up the Backsliding World: Whirlwind evangelist swings into action at Boston,”

Sunday had a warning for America.Billy Sunday’s 1929 Warning I’ve watched this YouTube video many times now. I am so grateful that someone recorded it and that folks have posted it on YouTube—and that YouTube hasn’t taken it down.

In the video he makes this prophetic declaration:

“America needs a tidal wave of the old-time religion. America needs to be taken down to God’s bathhouse and the hose turned on her. And the time isn’t far distant when the wheels of God’s judgment are going to go sweeping through this old God-hating world.”

And I want to take a pledge and this audience to join me in pledge—that you will never rest until this old God-hating, Christ-hating, whiskey soaked, Sabbath-breaking, blaspheming, infidel, bootlegging old world is bound to the cross of Jesus Christ by the golden chains of love.

“A Tidal Wave of Religion or Tsunami of Perversion?

Unfortunately, we didn’t see the tidal wave of religion that Sunday declared. Instead, we’re bracing ourselves for a tsunami of perversion.

A few weeks ago, I released a prophecy about this tsunami of perversion. Yes, we’ve seen the rumblings of this rising perversion but I believe it’s going to grow darker still. When you think of perversion you probably immediately think of sexual perversion—and I believe that’s part of it.

The Bible has plenty to say about sexual perversion in Romans 1:21-28 alone and we’re seeing that passage playing out right now.Only a tidal wave of religion—the greatest Great Awakening the world has ever seen—can reverse the course of judgment Sunday prophesied.

In 1929, Sunday saw a world that was God-hating, Christ-hating, whiskey soaked, Sabbath-breaking, blaspheming, infidels and bootlegging.

He probably couldn’t have imagined the state of the world nearly 100 years later.

We need more preachers like Sunday in this hour. We need prophetic voices that will rise up and speak the hard truths. We need apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers who aren’t intimidated by seeker-friendly crowds with itching ears that will only tithe to prosperity preachers.

And we all need to take on Sunday’s pledge to never rest until this old world is bound to the cross of Jesus Christ by the golden chains of love.Pockets of true revival are breaking out across America.

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Evil Empire: The 10 Plagues, Islam and the Judgment of God

Number Ten [10]

The 10 Plagues is one of the most epic and detailed stories in Scriptures. It provides a foundation for our understanding of God’s judgment.

Before Moses returned to Egypt, God told him that He would “harden Pharaoh’s heart” (Ex. 4:21). However, God did not execute that hardening until the plague of locusts (Ex. 10:1), the eighth plague. Pharaoh had already hardened his own heart seven times in the first seven plagues.

Each time Pharaoh was offered an opportunity for grace and forgiveness; and all seven times he responded with evil. Only after the “fullness” of Pharaoh’s hardening his heart in his own free will did God harden his heart as an act of judgment.

Before Moses was sent into Egypt, God told him to throw his staff to the ground; it turned into a serpent (Ex. 4:3). This was a sign of Moses’ spiritual authority over satanic forces, symbolized by the serpent. Yet there was another reason. God knew something that Moses didn’t know.

Moses had been in the desert for 40 years. The situation had degenerated to the point that cabinet-level ministers so were involved in occult worship that they could turn sticks into serpents (Ex. 7:12), turn water to blood (Ex. 7:22) and raise frogs out of the Nile (Ex. 8:7). Witchcraft was so rampant that the Egyptian kings wore crowns with snakes on them. Therefore, God prepared Moses ahead of time with the power to repel those satanic spirits.

An Eye for an Eye

The death of the firstborn was the last and worst of the plagues. Remember that the Egyptian pharaohs had been murdering innocent children already for 80 years (Ex. 1:16). God’s judgment is always preceded by grace and always perfectly righteous (what you do to others will be done to you).

The murder of the Jewish children in Egypt was the first type of “Holocaust,” later to be followed by Haman, Herod, Nazism and today, Islamic Jihad. Islam claims that Mohammed is the final prophet of God following all the biblical prophets, including Moses and Jesus. But ironically, these jihadis have more in common with the evil pharaohs than any Jewish, biblical prophet or apostle.

Jihadis want to bring judgment on Western society for the pervasive sins of corruption and sexual immorality. There is some truth in those accusations (compare Rev. 17:16-17). However, Islamists have raped thousands of innocent girls, which is also a form of sexual immorality; and committed murder and lied, which also transgresses the Ten Commandments. God’s prophets must also obey God’s moral laws themselves.

After the ten plagues in Exodus, the Egyptian armies were destroyed in the Red Sea. Those armies came with weapons ready to kill, pursuing the helpless multitudes that had been oppressed under brutal slavery for three generations. God’s judgment was harsh because the crimes committed were so cruel.

Round Two

God is a judge; a righteous judge. The Scriptures remind us over and over again that God’s judgments are perfectly righteous (Ps. 96:13, 98:9; Rev. 15:4, 19:11). God’s judgment includes:

  1. Moral Justice
  2. Offer of Grace
  3. Clear Warnings
  4. Judicial Process
  5. Moral Requirements for Prophets

Islam claims to bring the judgment of God, but does none of the above.

Pharaoh’s Egypt in Moses’ time was perhaps the most demonic empire in history. However, it would seem from prophetic Scriptures that such an evil empire would happen again. It will be even worse. It will be a worldwide, murderous, genocidal, demonic, tyrannical empire.

The Exodus from Egypt is recorded in the Bible not only as history but also as prophecy. What will happen in the end times will be similar to what happened in Egypt.

[Note: The Hebrew root (Ts-R-R) צרר is the same for the words Antichrist (Tsorer), Tribulation (Tsarot), and Egypt (Mitsrayim).] The story of the exodus provides a biblical framework for understanding God’s judgments and plagues in the end times.

For the original article, visit reviveisrael.org.
2/9/2015 Asher Intrater | Original Source: charismamag.com "Evil Empire: The 10 Plagues, Islam and the Judgment of God."
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Both Sides

Just a thought for today…

Never judge the case without a full investigation and all the evidence has been presented by BOTH SIDES
Always speak to the accused directly they have the right to a fair trial…
This is enshrined in our Laws as Justice, why do people practise daily the opposite when they hear stuff from others and then make instant decisions with out doing what they would demand if a charge was laid against them ???

Circumstantial evidence does not equal guilty Folks… make sure you’re not judging others on such evidence!

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